The Jalopy Journal

**Ryan** · 03-19-2009, 09:05 AM

The September, 1960 issue of Rod & Custom Magazine just might house the single best feature ever done on a little page or, for that matter, in R&C Magazine's history. Of course, my opinion is a biased one as I have always loved shoebox Fords and thi...

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geemann51 · 03-19-2009, 09:13 AM

I have this very copy at arms reach (thanks to Silva), A must for a SBF fan, though some of the ideas are a little dreamy for my taste, a consemate reference for sure. I did not know we had lost Lynn recently, a fitting tribute indeed.

Danimal · 03-19-2009, 09:18 AM

I'm not a big SBF fan but you know, you can probably find EVERYTHING in that issue to get the juices flowing.

Thanks for the history lesson.

Mudslinger · 03-19-2009, 09:21 AM

Got it. Thats a must have for the shoebox owners especially for the younger guys coming along.

Stu · 03-19-2009, 09:28 AM

I found a 49 2dr sedan the other day,I think I may have to go look at it

flathead fred · 03-19-2009, 09:38 AM

My god I have to have that magazine. I have only a few dozen of the little mags, and this is not one of them. I loooooove shoeboxes!!!

RAY With · 03-19-2009, 10:13 AM

The 49 ford was my first car to hot rod. With the purchase of aluminum heads,2 carb intake and some headers I was well on my way. In 50 or 51 I did myfirst transplant using a cadillac OHV. It was awesome in comparison to the flatty. In the 50's the choice was cadillac-Olds and red ram hemi. All of our hotrods back then were std. transmission and at that time my choice was a Lasalle. Ansen provided most of the adapters back then which made transplants feasible.I still have a place in the old heart for the shoe box.

**4t64rd** · 03-19-2009, 10:24 AM

I have that issue! A lot of the same grill and taillight treatments have been done to death on the 49-51 Ford and Mercs (and the ebay prices for some of those ppoular parts reflect it), posting those pages may help somebody think outside the shoebox (get it, shoe-box?!?!? I crack myself up) and try something different.

ThunderRoad Garage · 03-19-2009, 10:33 AM

man those cats werent afraid to try anything. I love it. some of them go a little too far. but hey, someones got to try it for the first time. i absolutely love most of the trim swaps.

49ratfink · 03-19-2009, 10:36 AM

I'd have thought there would have been more chop tops in an article like that.

anybody know if that Bailon hardtop still at the Oakland Museum??

jerseymike · 03-19-2009, 11:06 AM

boy it must have been great building cars back then when everything was available at the dealer or local junk yard. your options would be unlimited!

Jaker · 03-19-2009, 11:12 AM

awesome post, thanks!

I think Paul Richard's (no relation) convert on the top of page 33 RULES

the side trim (54 buick wagon?) looks perfect

froghawk · 03-19-2009, 11:23 AM

Some great ideas there! That club coupe with the radiused rear wheel well and the '54 Buick side trim is a natural!

silverdome · 03-19-2009, 11:41 AM

Just like a cardboard shoebox, it looks like you can make anything out of these cars.

**James Boys** · 03-19-2009, 11:55 AM

There was a thread posted a few days ago asking how many Shoeboxes were chopped when they were customized. I think this here answers that question. I've always loved the 49, and 50 shoes, never did care for the 51s really, didn't like the double bullet and the way the dash swooped down.

Anyways, I'll have to put this issue on the list of mags to look for at the swaps. Thanks Ryan!

Cincinnati Slim · 03-19-2009, 11:58 AM

I'll also be looking for this one at the swap meets.

Car Craft had a pictorial of shoeboxes also. I don't have it hear right now, but I think it is the one with Tommy Ivo's T on the cover.

ford51 · 03-19-2009, 12:18 PM

Somebody know anything about the cars in the magazine where they are to day?

Evel · 03-19-2009, 12:31 PM

Allot of those pictures were shot by Mr. Barris,,

63fdsnr · 03-19-2009, 01:21 PM

Thanks for putting this together, really brings back some memories of late 50's R&C - Lynn Wineland's articles were a big influence on me and helped push me to become a car designer. Wish I had saved some of the magazines.

**GEBHARD** · 03-19-2009, 01:22 PM

awsome i gotta get that issue now

03-19-2009, 09:05 AM	#1
Ryan Administrator Join Date: Jan 1995 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 13,604	R&C, Wineland, & Shoebox Fords The September, 1960 issue of Rod & Custom Magazine just might house the single best feature ever done on a little page or, for that matter, in R&C Magazine's history. Of course, my opinion is a biased one as I have always loved shoebox Fords and thi... To read the rest of this blog entry from The Jalopy Journal, click here. Last edited by Ryan; 03-19-2009 at 10:18 AM.

03-19-2009, 09:13 AM	#2
geemann51 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: La Mesa, California, USA Posts: 2,147	Re: R&C, Wineland, & Shoebox Fords I have this very copy at arms reach (thanks to Silva), A must for a SBF fan, though some of the ideas are a little dreamy for my taste, a consemate reference for sure. I did not know we had lost Lynn recently, a fitting tribute indeed. Last edited by geemann51; 03-19-2009 at 12:06 PM.

03-19-2009, 09:18 AM	#3
Danimal Old School HAMBer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: South East MI Posts: 4,105	Re: R&C, Wineland, & Shoebox Fords I'm not a big SBF fan but you know, you can probably find EVERYTHING in that issue to get the juices flowing. Thanks for the history lesson. __________________ I came here to learn. Not to pose. Court's truck IS A DRIVER!!! And a mini-burn out! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hJUMb6_xec http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lS9JqhUGId0

03-19-2009, 09:21 AM	#4
Mudslinger Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Dayton, Ohio Posts: 1,888	Re: R&C, Wineland, & Shoebox Fords Got it. Thats a must have for the shoebox owners especially for the younger guys coming along. __________________ Looking for 54 Dodge coronet side trim

03-19-2009, 09:28 AM	#5
Stu Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Gulfport,Ms Posts: 891	Re: R&C, Wineland, & Shoebox Fords I found a 49 2dr sedan the other day,I think I may have to go look at it __________________ http://instagram.com/cgnichols09/

03-19-2009, 09:38 AM	#6
flathead fred Grenade Inspector Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: seattle, wa. Posts: 298	Re: R&C, Wineland, & Shoebox Fords My god I have to have that magazine. I have only a few dozen of the little mags, and this is not one of them. I loooooove shoeboxes!!! __________________ 8 flathead cylinders, 3 speeds, 4 whitewalls, everything else is fluff...

03-19-2009, 10:13 AM	#7
RAY With Old School HAMBer Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Montgomery ,Texas Posts: 3,123	Re: R&C, Wineland, & Shoebox Fords The 49 ford was my first car to hot rod. With the purchase of aluminum heads,2 carb intake and some headers I was well on my way. In 50 or 51 I did myfirst transplant using a cadillac OHV. It was awesome in comparison to the flatty. In the 50's the choice was cadillac-Olds and red ram hemi. All of our hotrods back then were std. transmission and at that time my choice was a Lasalle. Ansen provided most of the adapters back then which made transplants feasible.I still have a place in the old heart for the shoe box.

03-19-2009, 10:24 AM	#8
4t64rd Alliance Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Pinellas County - the skin tag on the underside of America's wang, Florida Posts: 8,202	Re: R&C, Wineland, & Shoebox Fords I have that issue! A lot of the same grill and taillight treatments have been done to death on the 49-51 Ford and Mercs (and the ebay prices for some of those ppoular parts reflect it), posting those pages may help somebody think outside the shoebox (get it, shoe-box?!?!? I crack myself up) and try something different. __________________ Buy some stickers! www.swampkings.com

03-19-2009, 10:33 AM	#9
ThunderRoad Garage Grenade Inspector Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: missouri Posts: 173	Re: R&C, Wineland, & Shoebox Fords man those cats werent afraid to try anything. I love it. some of them go a little too far. but hey, someones got to try it for the first time. i absolutely love most of the trim swaps.

03-19-2009, 10:36 AM	#10
49ratfink Old School HAMBer Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: S.F. bay area, California Posts: 13,150	Re: R&C, Wineland, & Shoebox Fords I'd have thought there would have been more chop tops in an article like that. anybody know if that Bailon hardtop still at the Oakland Museum??

03-19-2009, 11:06 AM	#11
jerseymike Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: lititz, pa. Posts: 852	Re: R&C, Wineland, & Shoebox Fords boy it must have been great building cars back then when everything was available at the dealer or local junk yard. your options would be unlimited!

03-19-2009, 11:12 AM	#12
Jaker Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Waukesha, WI Posts: 866	Re: R&C, Wineland, & Shoebox Fords awesome post, thanks! I think Paul Richard's (no relation) convert on the top of page 33 RULES the side trim (54 buick wagon?) looks perfect __________________ hey bro cffc

03-19-2009, 11:23 AM	#13
froghawk Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 500	Re: R&C, Wineland, & Shoebox Fords Some great ideas there! That club coupe with the radiused rear wheel well and the '54 Buick side trim is a natural! __________________ *froghawk* aka John Goschke

03-19-2009, 11:41 AM	#14
silverdome Grenade Inspector Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: McCune, Ks. Posts: 281	Re: R&C, Wineland, & Shoebox Fords Just like a cardboard shoebox, it looks like you can make anything out of these cars.

03-19-2009, 11:55 AM	#15
James Boys Alliance Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: London ONT Posts: 171	Re: R&C, Wineland, & Shoebox Fords There was a thread posted a few days ago asking how many Shoeboxes were chopped when they were customized. I think this here answers that question. I've always loved the 49, and 50 shoes, never did care for the 51s really, didn't like the double bullet and the way the dash swooped down. Anyways, I'll have to put this issue on the list of mags to look for at the swaps. Thanks Ryan!

03-19-2009, 11:58 AM	#16
Cincinnati Slim Grenade Inspector Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Cincy, OH Posts: 207	Re: R&C, Wineland, & Shoebox Fords I'll also be looking for this one at the swap meets. Car Craft had a pictorial of shoeboxes also. I don't have it hear right now, but I think it is the one with Tommy Ivo's T on the cover.

03-19-2009, 12:18 PM	#17
ford51 Grenade Inspector Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: sweden Posts: 185	Re: R&C, Wineland, & Shoebox Fords Somebody know anything about the cars in the magazine where they are to day?

03-19-2009, 12:31 PM	#18
Evel Old School HAMBer Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Sucksville California Posts: 8,899	Re: R&C, Wineland, & Shoebox Fords Allot of those pictures were shot by Mr. Barris,, __________________ www.madfabricators.com www.barriskustomcity.com

03-19-2009, 01:21 PM	#19
63fdsnr Grenade Inspector Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Novi MI Posts: 348	Re: R&C, Wineland, & Shoebox Fords Thanks for putting this together, really brings back some memories of late 50's R&C - Lynn Wineland's articles were a big influence on me and helped push me to become a car designer. Wish I had saved some of the magazines. Last edited by 63fdsnr; 03-19-2009 at 02:06 PM.

03-19-2009, 01:22 PM	#20
GEBHARD Alliance Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Beaumont, ca Posts: 799	Re: R&C, Wineland, & Shoebox Fords awsome i gotta get that issue now __________________ 9X74

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