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07-29-2008, 07:22 PM
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Re: Tom Cobbs: Part 1
legend....
as a slight question of detail.....the carb arrangement of the leading photo...anyone have a few photo's of the linkage's & mount on the 4/71? Its very similar to the Navaro layout, and keen to see how he made it work... Cheers, Drewfus P.S. great read Ryan, look forward to seeing/reading more....
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07-29-2008, 07:56 PM
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Re: Tom Cobbs: Part 1
These history lessons,are the greatest asset of the HAMB! Thanks Ryan.
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07-29-2008, 08:24 PM
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Re: Tom Cobbs: Part 1
Great read Ryan, I love that "Double Threat Coupe".
The next instalment is eagerly anticipated! Perhaps a little O/T, but of interest to some is the fact that Buddy Fox is an example of a "tatted" early Hot Rodder.
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07-29-2008, 08:30 PM
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Re: Tom Cobbs: Part 1
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07-29-2008, 08:52 PM
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Re: Tom Cobbs: Part 1
I didn't see any mention of Tom's famous "tank" lakester. He started with his standard blown flathead and then went to a blown Olds and ran over 240 with that combination. The lakester was a true work of art with a tube space frame independent rear suspension and the big blown Olds for power. He did like the GMC blowers!
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07-29-2008, 09:03 PM
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Re: Tom Cobbs: Part 1
Here's a copy of a historical document graciously donated by the Lancaster Guild for Early Ford Education.
Goes into some nice detail of the carburetor setup. Really cool. Check out the accelerator pumps. First carburetor in line has a bell crank which works the second pump via extra pump rod. The rest is in the attachments.
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07-29-2008, 10:17 PM
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Re: Tom Cobbs: Part 1
One of my favorite stories is when Tom Cobbs and Fran Hernandez, Raced at Goleta Drag Strip. Tom had the blower, and Fran had the Edelbrock tuned Nitro snortin flathead. If I remember the story right there was alot of smack talk before hand, by cobbs, The Edelbrock guys beat Cobbs then loaded their car on the Trailer and left. What a glorious time to be a Hot Rodder!!
Jimmy White P.s. Tom Cobbs should have more recognition, Kudos to you Ryan for posting this. P.s.s. Vic Edelbrock and his crew (Bobby Meeks, Fran Hernandez) and the rest of them are high on my heroes list.
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07-30-2008, 01:03 AM
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Re: Tom Cobbs: Part 1
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07-30-2008, 06:15 AM
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Re: Tom Cobbs: Part 1
Thanks Ryan...what a great read. Can't wait 'til next week....
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07-30-2008, 08:53 AM
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Re: Tom Cobbs: Part 1
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07-30-2008, 08:59 AM
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Re: Tom Cobbs: Part 1
Found the issue...posted above...post the damn COVER, Kevin!!
And...maybe found the Hernandez coupe in a pic. Details at 11...
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07-30-2008, 10:01 AM
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Re: Tom Cobbs: Part 1
The POSSIBLE Henandez coupe pic: I hope someone with an electric computer has this and can post...
Publication is "Streetrod Annual 1983", a bastard publication put out by HRM to soothe homeless Rod&Custom fans as they saw sales for "Streetrodder" mag booming. Article by Gray Baskerville, who kept the flame of hotrodding alive through the days of lace paint and fake injector scoops..."Deuces are Golden". Page 29...a guy in a helmet and one in civvies are in the picture, standing by a fenderless 3W coupe. Guy with no helmet is indicated to be Fran. No mention whether car is his or not...could be the other guy's car, or maybe that guy drove for Fran?? Possibly a hit, possibly a close miss. No date or other info...excepth that Fran was currently working (1983) in FoMoCo's performance division!! That might help make hom traceable...
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07-30-2008, 10:14 AM
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Re: Tom Cobbs: Part 1
A research rant: The books mentioned above, Veda Orr's book, the "When the hotrods ran--1938" book are all VERY good...but go for the primary material!
Easiest is HopUp in the repro edition of its early years and the modern books reprinting great chunks of R&C and HRM. Where I would start, fairly easy to find and the BEST damn heap of pictues from roughly '49 up, is the early run of annuals from HRM, printed in a format smaller and thicker than the magazine. There were two early books put out '52-3 (containing much older material) called "Hot Rods" and something like "How to build a HR". In 1954 they put out the first true annual, and this series ran through about '62 or so. INCREDIBOBBLE period coverage from the lakes years up through the era of the show roadsters. If you don't have these, tell your boss you are sick and hit the road immediately to find copies; your life is a meaningless void without these books. Then, go out and start buying fleamarket copies of every mag you can find for your time of interest...they are all over the place, and many are as cheap as current newsstand piffle. Some titles (early HRM, CC, R%C) are gold, but good stuff is everywhere...that Cobbs article is in a mag no ever heard of, and gems appear all over even the wretched little East Coast mags that ltter the shows. Take tha $6 or whateverit is now fro Streetrodder and blow it online or at a show for some old paper!
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07-30-2008, 10:15 AM
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Re: Tom Cobbs: Part 1
I'll get a pic tonight. It was August '51 "Motorsports"
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07-30-2008, 10:18 AM
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Re: Tom Cobbs: Part 1
That mag is so valuable for its incredible cover no one has ever looked inside!
See Albert Drake's fifties book for an essay on the cover, the roadster, and the followup cover...took me years to find both mags.
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07-30-2008, 10:19 AM
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Re: Tom Cobbs: Part 1
Also a shot of the motor (looks like the same shot Ryan used for the Journal) in California Bill's Ford Speed Manual. Gives some detail but honestly I passed right by it looking for the article shown above.
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07-30-2008, 11:16 AM
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Re: Tom Cobbs: Part 1
Thanks for that post. Great reading. Looking forward to the follow up.
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07-30-2008, 11:21 AM
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Re: Tom Cobbs: Part 1
A sneak peek of just how crazy this story will get in part 2... and maybe, just maybe, part 3...
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07-30-2008, 01:16 PM
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Re: Tom Cobbs: Part 1
^^^ oh my!!!!
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07-30-2008, 01:38 PM
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Re: Tom Cobbs: Part 1
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 Seriously eating this info up tho, Thanks!
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