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Technical ***November 2017 Banger Meet - Thankful for Great Banger Tips***

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by Jiminy, Oct 31, 2017.

  1. Jiminy
    Joined: Oct 25, 2012
    Posts: 374


    Here is the banger link list:

    For the HAMB banger newbies, here are some links to a lot of banger info:

    Here is a list of most of the prior monthly banger meet links:

    Banger basics. another info link list:

    The link below shows flywheel lightening dimensions
    and this link shows the missing image from the above post

    The 4 Banger hot rod picture thread.

    Model B rod bearing insert numbers

    Engine tuning with a Vacuum gauge

    Adjusting dual Strombergs:

    Helpful Model A tools and tips:

    Gary in MN's late model Malory distributor conversion for A/B engine:

    Elrod's stuck head tech:

    Model A generator to alternator conversion:

    Gear ratio / speed and RPM calculator:

    Model A master cylinder mounting bracket ideas:

    Go here to read the 1931 edition of Harry Ricardo's book "The High Speed Internal Combustion Engine"

    Chevy Banger Stuff

    Post 198 starts a great discussion of the shape of a flat head combustion chamber

    T-5 5 speed in a Torque Tube:

    New Banger Block in the Works
  2. denis4x4
    Joined: Apr 23, 2005
    Posts: 3,645

    from Colorado

    Probably a few more good weeks to drive the Zipper before winter sets in here.
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  3. I miiiiiiight get my banger in my avatar running by the end of the month. Definitely by the end of the year.

    It has fresh everything. Babbit, bores, pistons, valves, valve seats, rebuilt oil/water pump, rebuild distributor.. just gotta plop it in my frame and wire it up.
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  4. RE: The RPM Nationals at the Santa Margarita Ranch. I just spoke to the young fellow who I've been trying to mentor in PreWar track racing (mostly Road Courses). At RPM he was running his newly acquired 30's "Big Car" (a predecessor to the modern day Sprint Cars). For those of you attending last weekend's event, his was the single seat "Black Widow" car, running a Model B flathead. He reiterated what I had heard that perhaps a "Banger" turned in the best time. Can anyone here verify that?

  5. colinsmithson
    Joined: Jan 27, 2013
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  6. RussTee
    Joined: Mar 25, 2008
    Posts: 1,209


    Interested in the mascote on the Isky roadster I have two given to me many years ago who made them I have heard several stories including they were made as school shop projects can anyone share any light on this?
  7. waxhead
    Joined: May 11, 2013
    Posts: 1,173

    from West Oz

    Checking in.
    Joined: Nov 26, 2010
    Posts: 520

    from USA

    I'm here. BOBS HOT ROD SATIN  4 BANGER 1.jpg
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  9. winduptoy
    Joined: Feb 19, 2013
    Posts: 2,236


    Already November
  10. Bluto
    Joined: Feb 15, 2005
    Posts: 5,113

    Member Emeritus


    I'll call Ed tomorrow and ask him it's too late tonight.

    Meantime I am still here Guys
    Last edited: Nov 1, 2017
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  11. Crazydaddyo
    Joined: Apr 6, 2008
    Posts: 3,184


  12. RussTee
    Joined: Mar 25, 2008
    Posts: 1,209


    Bluto thanks Crazydaddyo Im wondering if they were something Dan Iandola use to cast? there is a thread on the Isky roadster elsewhere that showed some print that claimed that only six were made I have two Isky had one Crazydaddyo has one and I know Pat Gary has one so I suspect they may be quite common.
  13. Checking in. I haven't done much but drive mine
  14. Crazydaddyo
    Joined: Apr 6, 2008
    Posts: 3,184


    I don't like to recall history if I don't know it, but I was told that there was a car club in So Cal that the members made them in High School shop class. It is quite possible that Dan made the one I have.

    Jim will get the story from the man himself. That will clear it all up. I was also told that the eyes on Isky's light up at night.
    Last edited: Nov 1, 2017
  15. Bluto
    Joined: Feb 15, 2005
    Posts: 5,113

    Member Emeritus

    OK, Ed's at SEMA and signing books when I caught him. It was pretty noisy as usual a lot of people in the background wanted his attention.

    Ed says the Mascots were made at Poly High School. He broughtt at an auction from a friend raising money

    I hope that helps. It was pretty crazy around him. We've not talked for a few months and we we're trying to catch-up but it was just too loud to really talk. So I'll check back with him when he gets home. We've been friends for way over 50 years. It's always great to talk with him. I just wish I'd been able to hear.

    If you need more info Russ please send me a PM and I'll try to help.

    The roadster sat duty in the Dyno room for so many years .... It was always nice to see it just standing there kindda sleeping. The first time I saw it in the sun and lovingly cleaned I thought they had restored it..... I'm very glad to tell you they didn't
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  16. Binger
    Joined: Apr 28, 2008
    Posts: 1,712

    from wyoming

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    I hope this image shows up.
    First time uploading with a phone app!
    I had a blast at the RPM NATIONALS!

    Sent from my SM-G920T1 using The H.A.M.B. mobile app
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    I'll post a link to the race video, once I get my cousin to send it from his phone.

    Sent from my SM-G920T1 using The H.A.M.B. mobile app
  19. RussTee
    Joined: Mar 25, 2008
    Posts: 1,209


  20. RussTee
    Joined: Mar 25, 2008
    Posts: 1,209


    Theres a thread on the Isky roadster explains that mascote think they are common
  21. TWSTR
    Joined: Mar 25, 2016
    Posts: 23


    Hi @ all,

    finally I've got my hopped up "German" G28 four banger back from the engine builder.
    Now I'm looking for the best clutch plate / pressure plate option.

    Searched the HAMB for the last days without success.

    Could anyone give me an advice on a clutch?

    Found different types of dics at Mac's/Snyders (woven/new style/heavy duty/V8) and two different types of pressure plates (three vs. six arms).

    The engine is a hopped up G28, witch bigger valves, bigger cam, winfield head, dual 97's etc.

    Looking foreward to hear your reccomendations.

    Many Greetings

    Attached Files:

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  22. HotRodMicky
    Joined: Oct 14, 2001
    Posts: 1,768


    Hi Daniel ,do you know a source for a g28t engine for sale?
    I like to build a 4-banger...
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  23. Joe,
    I regret not being able to attend the RPM Nationals (I live just down the street in San Luis Obispo); but I had to go down to SoCal that weekend. Nevertheless, GREAT JOB! I think it's "bitch'n" that you sucked the goggles off the V8 drivers and all comers!
    Now all ya gotta do is come back down to the Santa Margarita Ranch next July; and show some of the F.A.S.T. boys the "Short Way' down the aistrip!
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  24. waxhead
    Joined: May 11, 2013
    Posts: 1,173

    from West Oz

    Daniel, I just installed the following parts from Brattons on my pickup. The clutch disc retains the springs using metal tabs, some of the clutches from other vendors do not.

    Nice looking Banger, is that Jim Brierley's new head??
  25. hardtimesainit
    Joined: Jan 24, 2009
    Posts: 434


    Diaphram pressure plate (won't/don't slip/chatter with hard use)and aluminum flywheel with steel face(about 26lbs). Regarding disc , ensure that the disc that you choose has (captured) springs, so that should they become loose over use/time, that will not come out of place in disc...
  26. briphaeton
    Joined: Dec 29, 2011
    Posts: 43

    from cal

    Great Job Joe at the RMP Nationals!
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  27. Here you go! I wasn't the only one surprised, even the announcer was surprised me beating the fastest Blown V8 at the RPM Nationals. (Making a total win with a naturally aspirated 4 BANGER!)
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  28. Thanks guys! I hope everyone enjoys the video I just posted!
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  29. ROCKER77
    Joined: Jun 30, 2008
    Posts: 503


    That was a great run!
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  30. Thanks, All my runs were just as good, (I'm not easy on her!) It was a great day of racing! I brought home two trophies that day. One for winning my class, then a really cool one with a gold Indy car on top, green marble and a brass plate saying (Best Hot Rod) I can't wait to get an issue of HOP UP MAGAZINE with the event coverage!:cool:
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