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Old 10-06-2012, 12:41 AM   #21
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if shit happens, i will never have to sell my house, worry if i can pay the electric bill, because of the welfare system here will provide for me and my family,
Oh shit!!.......My prayers are answered!!........I forgot about the welfare system....No worries now, I am going to tell the ol'lady to go ahead and book the cruise....LOL
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Old 10-06-2012, 12:47 AM   #22
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Oh shit!!.......My prayers are answered!!........I forgot about the welfare system....No worries now, I am going to tell the ol'lady to go ahead and book the cruise....LOL
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Old 10-06-2012, 12:54 AM   #23
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Oh shit!!.......My prayers are answered!!........I forgot about the welfare system....No worries now, I am going to tell the ol'lady to go ahead and book the cruise....LOL
maybe i`m very wrong now, but i have the impression that you can go from having everything, house, cars, boat white picket fence and so on, to loose it it all, if you suddently loose your income, isnt there some sort of safety net provided by the goverment if that happens? see on the news here all the time about the US economy and how people get kicked out of the homes, please correct me if i`m wrong
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Old 10-06-2012, 12:55 AM   #24
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dont get me wrong, but with the economy in US, (and many other places) i`m glad i`m sitting in a little country in europe. if shit happens, i will never have to sell my house, worry if i can pay the electric bill, because of the wealfare system here will provide for me and my family,
I have a friend who says nothing but good things about the Norwegians and their country. He has a 16 year old daughter and as soon as she turns 18 and graduates from high school he's taking her to Norway to marry her off.

As far as this country goes, things will never get any better until they take the money out of politics, which will never happen.
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Old 10-06-2012, 01:15 AM   #25
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I would rather sell my car then live in it with a wife and kids. I also wouldn't feel very good about myself as a man if I had a garage full of cars that I was cashing welfare checks to cruise around in. My pride has value too. Don't get me wrong if you absolutely need the welfare scratch then so be it but I would think that was the absolute last resort. get a night job, fix off topic cars on the side, sell some pot(j/k) anyways just do what it takes. good luck with your situation and know you are not alone, It's tough all around.
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Old 10-06-2012, 01:19 AM   #26
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I see you have your own website, but it's not up to date, "in construction", hard to make money that way; get that up and running. You also have an E-Bay business. Cut prices to the bone, and hopefully go with volume to make that up, and build the business. HAMBER discounts, or maybe a HAMB vendor. You could also go to work for someone else, and run the business (s) also. My daughters' Gymnastics Gym Owner, despite owing a gym, was working for another gym, in fact, a competetor in the gymnastic competetitions. He's no longer doing that however, and is concentrating on his business again. Butch/56sedandelivery.
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Old 10-06-2012, 01:31 AM   #27
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I would rather sell my car then live in it with a wife and kids. I also wouldn't feel very good about myself as a man if I had a garage full of cars that I was cashing welfare checks to cruise around in. My pride has value too. Don't get me wrong if you absolutely need the welfare scratch then so be it but I would think that was the absolute last resort. get a night job, fix off topic cars on the side, sell some pot(j/k) anyways just do what it takes. good luck with your situation and know you are not alone, It's tough all around.
Man at this point I am just making fun with my comments. It's late and I have been up since 5AM this morning....Shit I mean yesterday morning
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Old 10-06-2012, 02:36 AM   #28
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You have had your prioeities all wrong,those cars should have been money you took home and paid bills with.Put them ALL up for sale at realistic numbers,keep your family and fix your house. I'm guessing your cars are under construction like your website and not helping you. Reality is a bitch;no one who is broke should own a '32,let alone 3, even if they are project cars, GROW UP,you are in a bind of your own doing. good luck.
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Old 10-06-2012, 02:43 AM   #29
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Hang in there. I know how it feels. I sold my beloved 62 vette a couple of years ago because my business took a dive. I hated to do it, but in the long run it's just a car. Man, that was hard to say. By the way, I was born and raised in K.C.K.
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Old 10-06-2012, 03:03 AM   #30
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This country has a welfare system too, but by the time you qualify you've already lost everything else so........
Cowtown, reading between the lines, you are not at that crunch point yet, the perfect time to decide to work harder/smarter and avoid that scenario.
It would kill me to lose the things that have taken a lifetime to attain, it ain't much in the scheme of things, but they would go before I would put my family on welfare in a trailer.

So yes, you're crazy.. I mean that in the nicest way. I really hope you can find ways to avoid that impending nightmare.

Finding a workspace that you can also live in is something that folks do over here......it's not totally legal but there are many ways to skin a cat.
Town councils tend to turn a blind eye, and sometimes it can be done legally depending on bylaws.
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Old 10-06-2012, 03:27 AM   #31
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You have had your prioeities all wrong,those cars should have been money you took home and paid bills with.Put them ALL up for sale at realistic numbers,keep your family and fix your house. I'm guessing your cars are under construction like your website and not helping you. Reality is a bitch;no one who is broke should own a '32,let alone 3, even if they are project cars, GROW UP,you are in a bind of your own doing. good luck.
i hate to say it, but this is the right answer. trim the fat. pick one of your cars to keep as a promotional tool, and try and keep a real roof over your head. we had to sell our rental property that i did'nt want to because of the property taxes. sometimes you got to simplfy. try and do the right thing. good luck.
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Old 10-06-2012, 04:17 AM   #32
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Anyhow just wanted too see If I am crazy for wanting to keep my cars over my house..LOL...It has not come to that yet,[/QUOTE]


The answer is "Yes"you would be crazy. The minimum responsibility you have to your family is for food, clothing , a stable roof over their heads, and an education.

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Old 10-06-2012, 04:44 AM   #33
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Well Cowtown, it loks like you have choices avaiable to you.
Business is slow - I presume that means you dont have enough customers coming in through the door to give you enough billable hours to charge to pay yourself a living wage.
Go and get a job - at a car dealer or wherever, which will take about 40 - 45 hours leaving you plenty of time and weekends to do whatever Cowtown Speed Shop customers want - that way you can top up your day job with some income generated from the business you intend to keep building.
We're not splitting the atom here - you need to generate some income boy - go and get some! If you can't get a job at a dealer or elsewhere in the trade then you can't be much good at your craft, and that may be the reason you haven't got enough customers.
Not everyone is able to turn their hobby into their career - you may be one who can't.
Deal with it and look after your family.
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Old 10-06-2012, 05:15 AM   #34
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Everyone says that!!...And ofcourse I will look over my family, They always come first, But I can look over them in a trailer, just like I can in this house...Houses are replaceable as well......I think alot of people feel their house is their home, Not me! Too Me a house is just a house, My home is wherever My family is, And if that is a trailer or cardboard box, then I will call it home.
Well then post #3 from Flathead Johnny is your answer. Relocate to a workshop and house in one with maybe a showroom for a car or two or lots of outside yard space. Might need a budget guru to work it all out, How about going into the restoration side of the game. Sports cars & vintage cars need love too. Good luck in the future.
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Old 10-06-2012, 05:59 AM   #35
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Just keep listening to the fuckin media like everyone else. You'll be a broke dick bitch in no time!

Seriously, you need to get over the top of what you're doing and look down at it real close. Look at your target market. If things are slow you have time to make the moves you've always wanted to. Here's a clue, nobody likes a downer. Speak, act, work, sell and everything in between, POSITIVE. Here's some numbers to consider. If we're at a "real" unemployment level of 10%, that means 900,000 out of every million people in the workforce has a job. How's traffic in your area at say, 4:00pm? Where'd they all come from? Ford can't build enough $45-55K trucks to meet demand. A good friend works 12-14hrs a day pouring concrete, as do most all of his co-workers. And I'm in fuckin Motown!

Forget the bad news and focus on what it is you do. Promote yourself to those who want your services. Look to a national market vs local. Local is very important, but it's not everything in a niche market. Do the very best on EVERYTHING as if your future depends on it, because it does. Lots of shops are busy, car counts are pretty damn big at events, somebody is paying someone to do something. Fill the voids and push a bit harder. You have the time to grow rather than cut. Sell? Sell what? If you have cars to pedal, then sell em to a prospective client rather than send them off to another shop. Lastly, get some sleep cuz you got work to do
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Old 10-06-2012, 06:06 AM   #36
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not saying you are, but a lot of people owe more than their house is worth. better to sell the house (and buy one as good for less money later)
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Old 10-06-2012, 06:18 AM   #37
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Cars come and go, but losing a house is hard to replace. A friend of mine had a shop. To cut overhead, he closed the shop and started working out of his house, which had a 6 car garage. The entire backyard is concreted in so it's perfect for a home business. Now, in his late 50's, he realizing that he doesn't have any retirement except for social security, so he sold a car he said he would never sell. He bought a rental property to supplement his retirement. As for myself, I retired recently and have 2 classic cars. My pension pays living expenses and my retirement account makes the house payment. The house will be paid in 4 more years.
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Old 10-06-2012, 06:34 AM   #38
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I have a friend that owns a truck repair shop in the small town we grew up in and was stuggling also. He let go of all the help he had, his brother who actualy started the shop took a full time job elsewhere and works nights at the shop. To my point, his tax guy told him to look into unemployment. He did and isnt exactly wealthy but is surviving now. Not sure how it works but may be worth checking into.
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Old 10-06-2012, 07:49 AM   #39
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I know about buisness slowing down. The day before thanksgiving 2009 I layed off 28 guys. One of the worst days of my life. A lot has happened since then. At one point it was down to my son answering the phone and I was the only one working in the shop. I sold everything I could including all but one car. Knowing what I know now I would have reacted much faster and cut costs right away. I am doing better now even though we still have a mountain of debt to knock down. My point is your family comes first. They are just cars. You can always get more. It sounds like you are a young guy and you should cherish those little kids while you can. Kids are smart. Don't let them think you love your cars more than them.
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Old 10-06-2012, 08:47 AM   #40
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Lots of great advise from your friends here.
The simple fact is you have to find the right combination of;

1) increase what $ comes in
2) decrease $ going out.

This may mean downsizing your home or downsizing your shop (rent). Can you sell the home and dump the shop and find a combo home/shop-even if it's a 5 year plan?

Is your current shop large enough to sublet out a portion to bring in some monthly $ ?

You may have to do all of the above AND work full/part time somewhere else. Do what you have to do. Drive a truck graveyards, etc.

Act now. Don't let the situation get worse.
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