Stogy, it's not a matter of hate on my part, I can dig the right flames on the right car if done well. That being said, I wouldn't want to see a line-up of black '40 coupes with orange/yellow flames at one show, or cars with odd colors. There are flame jobs that are way over the top and, to me, the Watson flames are a prime example. Anyway, to each his own, if it works for you run with it. Hey, I still dig '60s cars with fogged edges, webbing and panel painting.