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HAMB Drags '05 and a minor warning...

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Ryan, Sep 20, 2005.

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  1. Ryan
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    So I noticed a new user (Ace R&C) trying to sell a DVD of the HAMB Drags '05 for $25. I immediately deleted the ad and pm'ed the user as I never gave anyone permission to film our private event or use our name or logo. I thought maybe it was someone with good intentions that just didn't know any better, so I approached with a smile and good intentions. My thinking was that if the video met my standards and the new user came off as a nice enough guy we could do a profit share - he could make a little money for his efforts and I could pull in a little for the HAMB.

    The user refused to cancel production of the film and demanded $2000 for the footage stating the he would sell the DVD whether he had my permission or not.

    So, I contacted the official HAMB legal department (read: lawyer that likes hot rods) and let them send a cease and desist through email. In return, Ace R&C (some guy named Perri in Tulsa???) sent this:

    Of course I called Carl at MoKan and he has no idea who this guy is and he has never given him location rights. Carl being Carl (I love that guy) was ready to take the fight to the MoKan legal team, but I just want all of this to go away. The HAMB Drags have always been about cars and fun... This stuff is neither...

    So, why am I writing this? If you guys are approached in anyway by someone wanting to sell you a HAMB drags dvd, please let me know (the only exception being Fat Cat)... Marcie and I have worked really hard to make this place what it is and the thought of some lose cannon taking pot shots really offends me.

    Also, if you are afraid that your face or car might be on the video (and you would rather it not be) pm me and I will give you what little contact info I have on Perri.

    Thanks and sorry for the drama,
     
  2. 40Standard
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  3. Ryan
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    I'm not sure if he is just a really bad guy or a guy that got stuck in a really bad situation... It could be either. None of us are perfect.

    That said, I'm not going to let circumstances effect something we've all worked pretty damn hard for.
     
  4. FiddyFour
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    Ryan:

    FWIW, i dont think that one single thing went on at the track that would embarass the HAMB, You, Marcie or any HAMBer who was there. i mean, he might have been at some other track and dreaming he was at the Drags... but nothing went on that I seen at any rate...

    second, the guys a little light in the brain department judging from his note to you... its too bad that you even had to bother with this dork and his petty threats.

    Traves
     

  5. Ryan
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    I'm not at all worried about what's on any tape. That's not my concern in the least. I just don't want us taken advantage of... Hence the warning.
     
  6. fatassbuick
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    I don't think it's about 'embarassment', more about safety factors...maybe. Lawyers and silly laws are going to be the downfall of this country, we are our own worst enemy in trying to enforce common sense.
     
  7. general gow
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    I'd say that a 'nice guy' would have been a little more responsive and reasonable. The way this guy acted makes it a pretty safe bet to say that he's a jerk. But I know what you mean, and your better off giving him the benefit of the doubt until you know more.

    Keep us informed. Good luck.
     
  8. FiddyFour
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    Fair nuff Ryan. personaly i'd never buy something with the HAMB name on it unless it came from the classified here ON the board. that way i know you are getting your slice of the pie for the HAMB, and its all legit :cool:
     
  9. Agreed! He's a jerk-off! And none too bright, judging from his poor language skills.
     
  10. Rand Man
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    He can't spell Mo-Kan.
     
  11. Geez, "H.A.M.B.: UNAUTHORIZED". Will it be in the Michael Jackson section of the DVD store?

    Can't say I'll ever be buyin' it.

    What a jerk.
     
  12. Brandy
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    Well as long as we all stick together he's not going to make any money off of the deal. Unless he goes public with it and at that rate I believe he has bigger issues about using the HAMB name and I THINK asking for release forms from the participants...............at any rate, I'll smack anyone I know if they buy a copy.:D

    xxx
    Brandy
     
  13. buzzard
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    ". By the way I have been filming at MOCAN longer than you guys had hamb going"


    Yeah, it's right there on the Missouri/ Cansas border.
     
  14. FuelFC
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    Ryan, I pledge $100 to the official H.A.M.B. legal defense fund available at your need. Send me a bill and it is yours to use.

    If you don't need it that is ok I'll just save it for someones bail money. That I am sure we will need someday LOL!

    I will refrain from commenting any further on the subject as I would need the hundo for my legal fees if you catch the drift.
     
  15. TP
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  16. Ryan
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    HA! I don't think I need any legal fees fellas... thanks for offering though!
     
  17. Deuce Roadster
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    :(


    I was at the HAMB drags.......
    What went on that was so bad?
    People having fun, racing their cars and hanging with their friends......

    I am not a prude........but I am fairly conservative....

    1) I have no tatts
    2) I do not smoke
    3) I do not drink
    4) I am faithful to my wife.....
    5) I rode 2300 miles to be there ( round trip )

    I had a great time......and saw nothing out of the way......darn it...... :p
     
  18. gierhed
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    HAMB Drags: Grilles Gone Wild edition. Sorry, I better call it a night.
     
  19. Reggie
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    Ryan, I sent you a PM to get his contact info. I don't want any footage of me or my car on his video. I didn't sign a release form. If anyone buys the tape, my car will be the one blurred out.
     
  20. 40StudeDude
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    Yeah, what he said...BUT I wanna see the SMUT that was going on down there...exactly where did that happen?

    R-
     
  21. Ryan
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    Fellas. Fellas. Fellas. There is no smut... We were all at the HAMB Drags and know what went down. I think Perri is just being a little dramatic is all.

    Anyway, the important part here is that you guys let me know if someone tries to sell you a video... That's all...

    And hotwheel, I gotcha man. THANKS!
     
  22. If everybody who raced at MO-KAN sent this loser a letter/email saying they do not consent to their image being used in the video/dvd, with legal action to be taken if they appeared, the loser would have a big legal 'eeeep' on his hands wouldn't he?

    Just testing.

    (i'll pitch in $100 too if it ever comes to that...this place must be protected from losers....present company accepted...)

    :)

    Cheers

    MAIKI
     
  23. Ryan
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    Mai, yeah... That would be cool.

    I'm not worried about legalities too much though. I mean, I already have the guy for bribary as seen in the PM above and Carl has him for lack of location rights. If we were aggressive and really pissed off this would be a no brainer.

    The thing is, I don't think any of us care. I don't want this Perri guy getting any deaper than he already is. I don't wish the poor guy harm. I just don't want my name or brand used without my permission. Period.
     
  24. What is that quote? .................ah yes!................."Tie him to the car and drag him!":D
     
  25. FiddyFour
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    Hell yea. i'm with Reggie. . . i was on the opposite side of the start line from the tower, and if he "flimed from the start line" and all, i'd be in a lot of his footage... i know DAMN well i dont consent to my image and or likeness being used, nor that of my '05 dodge shitwagon for that matter :cool:

    put that in yur MOCAN an smoke it :p
     
  26. Evilfordcoupe™
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    Wait....I wasnt there...but I saw a little smut. Of course what I saw, she was wearing a bikini.....
     
  27. Tim
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    hows that line go?

    oh yeah

    "The HAMB, you take our stuff, we'll kick your teeth in"

    haha
     
  28. sodbuster
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    I don't think that I signed a release to be filmed. If the Mad Fab mad "EVIL" was there filming I would have signed a release, but I will be blurred out also.

    Chris Nelson
    Kansas

    If you need any legal entertainment guys to go after him I can ask some friends of mine, I freelance with Monday Night Football and ABC sports, part-time.
     
  29. hotrodladycrusr
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    The dude was probley referring to the "Midget Porn". Little does he know that goes down at most the midwest HAMB functions to the delight of the crowd.;)
     
  30. Ryan
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    Ohh fuck. Midget porn is against the law now? We are so fucked... Someone hide lil' Mike fast! :)
     
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