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Old 10-31-2011, 01:15 AM   #1
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Default 1952 Allard J2

Here are some images of a 1952 Allard J2.It's being restored by Marc Hendrix in Belgium.These are his images.

It has a 392 Chrysler Hemi,Ford transmission,Ford front axle,and Ford rear axle.

The job is not finnished yet.The pictures may not be in order or labeled.As they say...one picture is worth a thousand words! This saves me from many typing errors too!

BanjeauX Bob
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Old 10-31-2011, 07:40 AM   #2
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Default Re: 1952 Allard J2

very cool. big american hot rod motors in very elegant european looking car. never knew the ford front axle were split into an independent front suspension on allards. you learn somethin new every day!
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Old 10-31-2011, 09:27 AM   #3
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Default Re: 1952 Allard J2

And the rear suspension! Ford center section with, was it swing axles? Gotta go back and look, but inboard drums. Rather exotic rear and rather truck like front. Wild, wonder how they handled, and what the weight is.

Went back and looked, and it looks like a full independent in the rear.
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Old 10-31-2011, 09:32 AM   #4
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Bob, what's the history of this car?
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Old 10-31-2011, 09:37 AM   #5
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What is amazing is the wheels survived the hemi!
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Old 10-31-2011, 09:53 AM   #6
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Kurtis,I have yet to find that out.
Bob, i asked only because it reminded me of Bill Pollack's J2, seen here at Pebble Beach in 1953, although this was powered by Cadillac.
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Old 10-31-2011, 10:44 AM   #7
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Quite the car. One would have to think that most of those were pretty well documented as to race history and ownership records much like the Ferrari's of the same period.
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Old 10-31-2011, 06:21 PM   #8
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And the rear suspension! Ford center section with, was it swing axles? Gotta go back and look, but inboard drums. Rather exotic rear and rather truck like front. Wild, wonder how they handled, and what the weight is.

Went back and looked, and it looks like a full independent in the rear.
didnt even notice, thats amazing...never heard of anything like that before...
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Old 10-31-2011, 07:21 PM   #9
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DeDion rear end, about the only IRS at that time that would handle the big Yankee V8s. All J2 and J2Xs used the IFS split beam axles from Ford. These things are a handful to drive, and you have to appreciate the guys that hurtled through the countryside at breakneck speeds. These were MEN's cars, and for the most part, they still are (if you can find one).

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Old 11-01-2011, 12:26 AM   #10
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Limeworks just finished a Allard, only Cad powered
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Old 11-01-2011, 02:41 AM   #11
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That'd have to be fun to drive.
Talk about steer by throttle!
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Old 11-04-2011, 11:57 PM   #12
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Bob, do you know what the chassis number is?
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Old 11-05-2011, 12:08 AM   #13
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i did a later allard in no ca after flood
it had a 392 chrystler buick dynaflo trans dedeon rear with ford diferental center section
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Old 11-05-2011, 08:58 PM   #14
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How did she handle when you drove it hard?
never got to drive on the road
the sar was striped for painting just moved it around
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Old 11-05-2011, 09:03 PM   #15
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the rear end had jag inbord brakes
the axel shaft was ford outer berring ford and a 205 inner made careyer
i think the front suspention was MGA had that big crosmember
just like the one on my friends chevway
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Old 11-08-2011, 11:45 PM   #16
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I seem to recall that at least some of them had a split Ford I beam front suspension. I have seen some pics showing front wheels at funny angles.
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Old 11-09-2011, 01:34 AM   #17
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Thanks Bob! First time I've ever seen an Allard all apart. There are two ARDUN powered Allards within an hours drive of my house. Years ago there was one here in town just parked in a driveway, I'll always regret not stoping to ask about it, long gone now. Bob
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Old 11-15-2011, 10:38 AM   #18
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Body and frame
The holes he filled were the same as in ours, the tail light holes, really crude but hidden when the tail light is installed. Brilliant cars our car drives so nice it's incredible, yet to be driven in anger though !!!!!
Good luck with the resto , it will be a ton of fun. The one we did was a J2X with the front wishbones going forward to push the engine forward for more leg room .
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Old 11-18-2011, 06:27 PM   #19
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Such amazing cars! I love the use of the early ford center section while converted to IRS with inboard drum brakes! Insane!

Steve, Did the Allard you guys just finished have IRS similar to this as well or something else?? I don't recall last time I was there...
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Old 11-22-2011, 02:27 PM   #20
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Bob,

There used to be an Allard here in Fairbanks back in the early 80's. I saw it one time, it had a Cadillac engine in it.

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