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Old 07-21-2011, 10:39 AM   #1
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Default How long can a record stand?



I was just thumbing through my 2010 Rules and Records book from the SCTA, looking at the classes, vehicle types and dates the records were made. Most of them were 10 years old or less, and only a handful went back to the early 90s. And that makes sen...

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Old 07-21-2011, 12:17 PM   #2
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Let's not forget Burt and his 1000CC or less record set in 1967 when he was 68 on his 1920 Indian
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Old 07-21-2011, 12:30 PM   #3
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Steam land speed record was set in 1906, and wasn't broken until 2009.
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Old 07-21-2011, 12:33 PM   #4
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Cool stuff! I love that last auto union pic.
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Old 07-21-2011, 12:33 PM   #5
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Steam land speed record was set in 1906, and wasn't broken until 2009.
What about the "Steamin Demon. 145.607 mph in 08/85? That was the record when the Brits ran. I had the XO/BGAlt record from 1980 until 2009 when those Salt Cat guys stomped all over it. It's good that records get bumped. Means people are running in the class. Mine lasted because nobody cared. And NSU had two bikes there. A small one with the 50cc engine and a small rider. And the pictured larger bike with the larger engine and rider.

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Old 07-21-2011, 12:52 PM   #6
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A true gentleman driver and a proper man... you had to have balls to take one of those Auto-Union monsters and drive them they way they did... can you imagine trying to tame 600 methanol-fuelled horses on skinny 30's tyre technology on cobbled street circuits? Modern drivers pale in comparison. I always get a sense of true admiration for these fellas.

NSU was at its height in this late pre-war and early post-war years, and records made great headlines... you see a lot of manufacturers after that particular grail in this period. MG, Abarth, Gordini, Nardi... most every manufacturer with sporting credentials had a go at some point at this game of speed records.

I agree that they probably had one or two motorcycles and simply swapped over the engine bits to claim any particular record.

A great insight into a golden era... fabulous stuff!

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Old 07-21-2011, 12:58 PM   #7
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I guess the record for Steamin' Demon wasn't official because the doors flew open and the car caught fire.

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Old 07-21-2011, 01:04 PM   #8
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We have discussed this on landracing.com. Classes change, rules change and as Rich noted certain combos get forgotton. All of these can "strand" a record for time.
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what is his 50cc blown record then??
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Old 07-21-2011, 04:00 PM   #10
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Blown fuel? 50cc?? Am I the only one picturing a 6-71 Jimmy perched on top of a weed whacker?
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Old 07-21-2011, 04:17 PM   #11
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Blown fuel 50cc.......hmmmm maybe we have a new class for the LSRU mini bike races! haha
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Old 07-21-2011, 04:17 PM   #12
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Blown fuel? 50cc?? Am I the only one picturing a 6-71 Jimmy perched on top of a weed whacker?
What are you crazy? I think a 4-71 would be plenty...
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Old 07-21-2011, 04:24 PM   #13
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I guess the record for Steamin' Demon wasn't official because the doors flew open and the car caught fire.

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Steam-Car-Record-British-Team-Set-News-Top-Land-Speed-Record-For-Steam-Powered-Vehicle/Article/200908415368785
Interesting read but not true. If you want to research records, I would recommend the BNI-SCTA record book. I'm going to stick with my previous post. Don't forget the Brits had plenty of corporate Pounds Sterling invested in that effort. They didn't want to come right out and mention it was slow.
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Old 07-21-2011, 04:27 PM   #14
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The 50cc bike went 121.700 in '56. In 2007 the Buddfab unblown 50cc fuel streamliner went 131.545. Makes the '56 record all the more amazing
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Old 07-21-2011, 04:47 PM   #15
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The 50cc bike went 121.700 in '56. In 2007 the Buddfab unblown 50cc fuel streamliner went 131.545. Makes the '56 record all the more amazing
Wow any idea if it was two or four stroke?
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Old 07-21-2011, 07:35 PM   #16
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All very interesting, including the "to and fro". Thanks guys.
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Old 07-21-2011, 07:44 PM   #17
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I'd wager on a mix of the two types, NSU played a lot with both types in motorcycles until the mid-60's when they got heavily into the Wankel engine for building the ultimate modern car (the Ro80), which pretty much sealed their fate.

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Old 07-21-2011, 07:58 PM   #18
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the record we run against at El Mirage has stood since 1983! Its a tough one!
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Old 07-21-2011, 09:03 PM   #19
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This is what I was into in my earlier days, vintage motorcycle racing, German to be exact. It laid the ground work for the traditional hotrod life I lead today, thank you so much for the post. Love those hand beaten dust bin fairings!
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Old 07-21-2011, 09:08 PM   #20
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Wow any idea if it was two or four stroke?
Two stroke.
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