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Technical one ladder bar rear suspension.

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Andy, Mar 28, 2024.

  1. Andy
    Joined: Nov 17, 2002
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    I posted a thread about this design before. Not much interest. I have better pics now. I hope it is of interest as it really works great and is much easier to make than most set ups.
    It has one ladder bar on the right side taking all the housing wrap up. It is calculated so the upward push on the right side matches the engine torque rotating the body to the right. The body always stays level. It all uses the upward push on the right side to load the right tire. It always loads it in proportion to equalize the load on the left tire. Equal traction. I have not wanted or used a limited slip diff in 50 years. A posi only makes both wheels turn the same. They do not give equal traction as the right tire still does not have as much down load. All of my friends have exclusively used it as well. Everyone happy with it.
    It has been used in my roadster for 34 years. Never a problem. Look up the thread on Andy Rafferty roadster as to where the car has been.
    The dimensions I use is 9 in off center for the forward mounts and it is 33 in forward of the axle centerline.
    It gives great anti squat and dive.
    It has a roll bar to adjust over and under steer. Every tire change ends up with a different bar as the tire grip changes. It is just cold rolled with arms.
    The low long track bar is a good feature. A short high mounted bar makes the body jerk side to side over bumps. I use 59 64 chevy bars and fittings.
    The unfinished chassis is one I built and sold. It is under a 5W now.
    The bars are 1 in cold rolled. Cheaper and stronger than tubing.
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  2. 05snopro440
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  3. Are you saying the bars are literally solid bar stock that have been drilled and tapped? I can't say I've ever heard of anyone doing that (IF that's what is going on here) as most would use DOM tube.
     
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  4. Johnny Gee
    Joined: Dec 3, 2009
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    from Downey, Ca

    ^^^^^ That’s why the right tire stay’s planted (the weight). :)
     

  5. Jay McDonald
    Joined: Apr 6, 2020
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    Very nice setup, obviously you have a good understanding of how torque reaction works, it is often completely misunderstood even by some pros.
     
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  6. nrgwizard
    Joined: Aug 18, 2006
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    from Minn. uSA

    Hey, Andy;
    Thanks for posting more details on the 3-bar.
    Marcus...
     
  7. Andy
    Joined: Nov 17, 2002
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    Andy
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