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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by tfr1, Aug 19, 2013.

  1. tfr1
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    After much seaching, I still do not know what type of wire to use to edge the panels I am making.

    I am building a 20ga steel body withe 1/8" wire in the edges.

    Any wire will probably work. I just want to know what you have used and how it worked. Also, do I use welding wire in 3' pieces and butt weld them together?
    Several edges are more than 6 feet in length.

    Thanks

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  2. 1971BB427
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    I used mild steel 1/8" rod to trim the radius on my wheelwells. It bends and welds easily, and worked great.
     
  3. tfr1
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    1977BB427

    Thanks for giving me such an obvious answer!

    I have been focused on finding 1/8" wire. I had not even considered 1/8" rod.


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  4. tfr1
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    1971BB427

    Forgive the typo!
     

  5. The37Kid
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    The tool that is used to bend the metal looks somewhat like an old beer/soda cap remover. A Google or HAMB search should turn up a vedio of how it is done. Bob
     
  6. heatnbeat
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  7. pimpin paint
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    Hey,

    Henry used high carbon wire in his fenders to resist flexing.

    A tipping wheel in your beading/swage machine makes for a good/clean start for the placement of a wire, in the flange of an edged panel.

    " Meanwhyle, back aboard The Tainted Pork "
     
  8. fleet-master
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    I use the appropriate thickness of fencing wire (normally 1/8"). Its usually zinc coated too ,so it won't rust quickly, is stiff enough to hold whatever shape I bend it to and doesn't cost the earth. just my .02
     
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  10. Irrational Metalworks
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    X2 on this. Galvanized fencing wire comes in a few different sizes. I used 3/16 fence wire when I re bodied the 33 Morgan. It had 72 feet of 3/16 wire edge in that body. I got pretty good at wire edging when I was done with that job!!!
     
  11. El Caballo
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    Don't weld on galvanized anything if you can help it.
     
  12. Mindover
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    You don't need to weld the wire.

    I also use fencing wire. I don't tip the edge first because there is no need and many panels would be just about impossible to pick up and feed into a jenny (bead roller). I show a little of how I do it on my youtube footage.

    Here is a '33 fender that I made and wire edged. Too big to feed through a bead roller, for me anyway.


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  13. tfr1
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    Tim,

    My project is a 1927 Morgan Aero.
    I intended to use 1/8" wire, but pictures of your morgan project with 3/16" looks great.

    TFR1
     
  14. Irrational Metalworks
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    The original panels all had 3/16 wire in them. The only 1/8 wire on the 33 is in the openings on the hood. I had the luxury of having what was left of an original body to get all my info from! I think they used 3/16 to keep rigidity in the long one piece side panels. I'm still trying to figure out why they made them that way. They were a PITA!!!
     
  15. tfr1
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    Thanks Tim

    Where do you source the wire?
     

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  16. Irrational Metalworks
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    Any fence supply or maybe Home Depot or Lowes. It's very common!
    Nice looking start you have there! Keep us posted as you go!
     
  17. Roger Walling
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    After finishing your wire edge, squeegee in some structural adhesive for steel and fill all voids to prevent rust. Finish with a good sanding and you will never know it is there.

    It is available at body shop supply stores for bonding steel to fiberglass.
     
  18. fleet-master
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    ^^^ you could do that..or run fishoiline in around the edge.
     
  19. tfr1
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    I have a new Metalshaper god to worship.

    Tim @ Irrational Metalworks provided the advice and support I needed at this point in my project.

    Thanks again

    I have decided to take his advice, back up a step and redo some things.

    As I regroup, thought it might be of interest to look at where I started, and where I am trying to go.

    I am going to start a thread describing my 1927 Morgan Three Wheel Car build.

    TFR1
     

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