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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by classicdreamer, Feb 28, 2012.

  1. classicdreamer
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    About to start building a shoebox. Cant decide on what motor to put in. Only know it HAS to be ford. What would be your choice? Buying the project with no motor or trans. Being that I like everything fast and a bunch of torque, my only requirements.
     
  2. pinkynoegg
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    put a 460 in her and call it a day. plenty of power and torque.
     
  3. porknbeaner
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    351 Clevland if you want fast and stout.

    FE if you want loads of low end grunt.

    430 MEL is also a good choice.

    If you want true traditional and scoot down the road as well I would be after an early cad V-8. But it is not Ford just traditional. ya gotta love a Fordillac.
     
  4. '54Caddy
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    When I bought my '50 shoebox project, it had a Caddy 365 from back in the day. That motor will be rebuilt and put back in when I build that car.

    If you're dead set on a ford, I would go y-block(preferably 312) or a flathead.
     
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  5. id run either a flathead or a 289,302,351w if you want a cruiser and alittle less problems getting them to fit


    if thats not a concern id run an FE
     
  6. smarg
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    DOHC 4.6 out of you know what.

    Aftermarket is huge for go fast parts.
     
  7. moefuzz
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    A 429 ThunderJet from any late 60's early 70's Tbird will get you 365 stock hp and 450 feet pounding torque, heads from 69-73 are preffered with 70 D0VE and 71 D1VE being best of the best)
    And I do believe you can still find a Ford auto overdrive from a late model 460 powered truck to bolt onto your ThunderJet.

    Throw ~$1600 dollars at it in the form of a 500+ cubic inch stroker crank/rods/pistons/kit and you will be pulling the front wheels off the ground.

    -For the price of a rebuild plus the SCAT Crank kit you'll be in the torque stratosphere.

    .
     
  8. xxzzy999
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    Good article about Ford stroker motors in latest issue (April) of Hot Rod mag. They cover the latest small block 363 stroker which would be a good choice.

    I'd go with a stroked small block to take advantage of the gain in torque which will help get that ~3500 pound beast moving down the road or track.

    Regards,
    X
     
  9. metal man
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    Y-block baby! They're pretty and sound great.
     
  10. terryble
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    I know what NYC weather can be like so you will need a heater, if you are using the stock 49-51 heater (they work awsome by the way) you will need heater motor clearance if you want to avoid a lot of changes. I used a 351W motor and had to find a shorter heater motor for it to work. From my experience I would recommend a 302W (do I dare to suggest EFI and AOD tranmission here).
     
  11. In my opinion a low compression 460 will do the job. Today's gas is bad and getting worse.:( A 9.5 to 1 compression big block will still give you some good torque numbers and still run on 89 octane.
    Shameless plug warning::eek:
    We are a full service engine shop with a motor like that in stock!
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    1969 block, Genuine CJ rods with Milodon bolts,
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    Weiand Stealth intake, Quick-Fuel 750 Vacuum, Billet Electronic distributor.
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    Thanks: Matt
     
  12. magneto57
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    1958 ford 410............!!
     
  13. porknbeaner
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    I had a '46 Coupe that had one of everything in it while I owned it. The first engine it had in it was a 331 cad. it was also the last engine it had in it while I owned it. it was just correct.

    But it did have a built to the hilt 351 clevland in it at one time as well. i was a lot faster with the Clevland than the cad, but the cad was just a better mill for the car. it is something that cannot be explained you just would have had to be there.
     
  14. Y Block for my vote, they are a damn good motor and look great dressed up as well.
     
  15. tjm73
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    What do you want out of the engine? Torque? Horsepower? Mileage? Would be easier to make a recommendation if you shared your goals.
     
  16. turdytoo
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    Takes lots of dollars and you have to build the car around the motor.
     
  17. 427 Ford FE side oiler 2 4brl's and a six speed trans.What the hell go for it.
     
  18. Buddy Palumbo
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    A 289/302/351W will fit right in with little effort . Mount kits are available , and loads of go-fast stuff everywhere . I've got a 302 in mine , and I'm building another with a friend who's running a 351W .
     
  19. Marty Strode
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    A tri-power Y-block, it was good enough for Lucas Doolin.
     
  20. porknbeaner
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    I had a 3 duece Y block in my '55, loved it.
     
  21. 39 All Ford
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    How about a LINCOLN Y-Block?????

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  22. 55delray
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    classic, porknbeaner has it right. although the BBFs have a lot of following, if you plan to put a/c and other accessories so the car is truly drivable, then the 302 with an AOD is the smart choice.
     
  23. Willy301
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    I am a 351W fan, HP and TQ are more than adequate, go fast parts are very readily available. It will certainly bring life to that shoebox!
     
  24. Henry Floored
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    I've said it before, I'll say it again the 385 series big block Ford (429-460) is the best bang for the buck you can get bar none.

    sidenote: Matt we have to talk I am a former Rochesterian and we may share a common interest in Ford stuff. I used to work at Fred Walker Ford way back when. Planning a visit last week of March, maybe I'll swing by your shop and "bend your ear" for a minute. Your FED looks very cool!
     
  25. Deuce Daddy Don
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    Are you a DRIVER?---OR a drive in guy?
    If you are a driver, then face up to todays gas prices & enjoy a sbf 289 stocker.
    If you are a "Rump-Rump" artist, run the BIG 460!
     
  26. classicdreamer
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    I am and will always be someone who will try to put the pedal an additional 3 inches below the floor. My avatar has a fully built 327 that may on a great day get 8mpg. Looking for something reliable, fast and period correct-ish.
     
  27. smarg
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    Might as well build another 327.
     
  28. Don Martin
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    312 3 2's thunderbird valve covers
     
  29. Reliable and period correct for a shoebox - Flathead, just not that fast.

    Reliable, period correct, and mildly fast - Y-Block

    Reliable, period correct, and fairly fast - Lincoln Y-Block

    Reliable and Fast - FE or MEL, just slightly period correct (both introduced in '58)

    Good Luck.
     
  30. BACAGrizz
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    289 with a c-4.
     

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