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  1. bchctybob
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    Moving on with the update of my ‘28 high boy I’m wondering what to do with the back edge of the cockpit. I believe this car had a wooden piece going around the back in the past. Some early style rods had upholstery or the seat back sticking up and covering this area. I won’t be doing that. It needs to be finished and painted but how can I attach a soft top back there.
    Please post some pictures of how others have made this area look good with and without the top. Even pics of a stocker might help.
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  2. dana barlow
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    035.JPG What I'm showing,is behind my seat{storage with a shelf },there is a 1/2in. plywood panel that is what holds body shape. In my case,I have a bobtail "A"roadster,do to all of trunk was crushed back when I got the "A"in late 1950s. I cut off the wrecked rear end,an built the rest in to my hot rod in 1959.
     
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    So yours has a wooden strip across the back. Nice. Are the top snaps on the top or on the back of the strip? Thank for posting the photo.


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  4. 56premiere
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    You will need the wood , the snaps have parts on the wood and also the top
     
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  5. You need “something” vertical to attach the snaps. Wood is the easiest. Use good wood.
     
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    There are wood strips that get attached to the upper edge area. This pic is from my 31 but the concept is the same. Snaps are then fastened into the backside of the wood and the mating part is put on the top. Pull the top down over the wood strip and snap in place.

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    I like the natural wood across the back more than I thought I would. Especially with the dark color (mine will be midnight blue metallic). If I have the upholstery guy do the seat back so it’s flush with the top of the wood it will have the early flavor and the wood won’t look so lonely up there. Is there supposed to be wood inside around the rim that the upholsterer uses as a tack strip for a close out behind the seat?


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    A couple pictures of the top that came with the car. It seems like a nice top, heavy material, formed hardwood bows and chrome hardware.
    I was originally thinking of finishing off the top of the body nicely, putting snaps on the backside of the body reveal and having the top shop make me a canvas strip to extend the top down to the snaps. IMG_2140.JPG IMG_2141.JPG IMG_2139.JPG


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    Calling Dr. Clark, Dr. @Clark
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  12. dana barlow
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    You ask about tack strip under rear cockpit lip,yes I made one,is black in pic so a little hard to see,but you know what to look for;this is before covering it{ I used some 1/4in. thin form under cover=lets seat back look like perfect fit!!
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    Thanks Dana. You’ve finished that area off very nicely. I hope I can do the same.
    This is where I’m headed with my interior. Except for the seat puffing over the edge. IMG_2060.JPG


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  14. There are company's that make the deck former's but they can be made by cutting and gluing pieces together. HRP

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    If someone told me..... “I’m going to do my seats in .....yellow” I would have said” have you lost your mind! “
    But your interior looks awesome!!! Especially next to that beautiful wood!








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    Dana I can’t believe you’ve hung onto your car for so long. That’s just awesome!
    Gordon C, love those fenders. I’ve got a pair of old nicely bobbed rears but haven’t used them yet.


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    I removed 5 3/4" from each of them. I think they look better not all long and hanging down. Here's a full rear shot. Also a better pic of the interior. I'm just getting it finished up and just put the seat in last week. Sounds like your interior will be similar to mine!

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  19. dana barlow
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    Thanks,,,Your top look like a great one. Early 1960s Coconut Grove/ Miami Fla.My old fenders {MC type}were made from 2 continental kits tire covers,each cut in 1/2 ,bolts through brake backing plates an wing nuts too hold brackets for fenders=I hated those little things,took them off every time I could.
    I had to use them when ever the only cop {Richard -a dick-Warner }that pushed the law about them was assigned my side of town{that ass would give me a ticket for no fenders} others were cool cops,didn't care about BS stuff.

    Bones;
    Color yellow was added with #2 redo of seats in 61,to match Ford yellow engine I used all the time, so LOL, I had all black on my first interior seat n cover,a buddy Nuwt's Car n Boat tops an seats, gave me left over roll of black to use. Didn't take long to know why black on seat in Florida sun was bad idea. He replace seat covers like you see now,Newt {RIP],did them way back,I redid same,,but I did them my self this last time, same way he did pretty much. I do still keep a beach towel be hind seat,habbet left over from all black in sides! Plus was good to have on dates when I was a lot younger.

    GordonC;WOW nice.

    Flathead Dave; wind if rear window closed buffits,but open it dose not. So only close if raining hard. I should make sides for top but,,,,,,,,,,,,,
     
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  20. GordonC
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    Thank you Dana. Coming to the end of a 5 year build. Feels good.
     
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  21. bchctybob
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    I went upstairs and rummaged through the stuff that came with the roadster and found a partial wood kit and the belt wood. I had tried it before and it fit so poorly that I thought the kit was for a different car. It's an AMD 1276 kit from Snyder's as near as I can tell from the markings on each piece. I lined up the long wood piece with the existing holes that coincided and seemed to center it, then clamped it on. All three holes on the end pieces lined up but the position is not great in relation to the long piece. It looks like they had custom made the end pieces at least because the blue tape in the photo marks where the front snap on the top is. The previous owner was Dale Velzy, a surfboard shaper, so I'm sure he could shape a little piece of wood to fit.
    If I go this way it looks like I'll be testing my wood working skills.
    Gordon C; yep, looks like they will be very similar.

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