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What do I fill interior space with so metal does not oil can in and out?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by streetfreakmustang, Mar 1, 2009.

  1. streetfreakmustang
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    OK. Remember those wildy painted/pinstriped "Gas", "Oil" "Water" cans that were displayed next to cars back in the 60's and 70's at indoor shows?

    I found a set of three new 1 gallon steel cans but the metal is kinda thin and the metal moves in and out easily. In a nutshell they oil can quite easily. The can's are going to be metalflaked so the walls need to be rigid.

    Any suggestions on what to use to fill these cans to make them more rigid? A friend who is painting them said he tried some of that spray insulation foam but it would never dry on the interior because it needs air.

    I was thinking of using shipping peanuts mixed with Elmers glue and pouring in 3-4 inches at a time and allowing it to dry kinda like a paer mache.

    Whatever I use it has to be lightweight.
    Any other suggestions?
    Thanks
     
  2. choppintops
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    They make 2 part foams (try a boat builder shop) that works great.
     
  3. 49ratfink
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    you are putting way too much thought into this. cram it full of newspaper.
     
  4. you should check to see if those packing peanuts and glue are compatible..the glue just might melt it

    i would try just packing them full of sawdust
     
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  5. Von Rigg Fink
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    saw dust

    dammit 36-3 windows a fast typer..

    or you could fill em with plaster
     
  6. streetfreakmustang
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    Id use foam in a can that swells up. Spray half the can at a time. But then the cans will be useless. News paper would also work and you can use the can later if you decided to. Plus it would be cheaper.
     
  8. streetfreakmustang
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    My friend tried that spray foam but the interior of the foam never dried.

    I don't plan on filling the cans with anything-just for show.
     
  9. streetfreakmustang
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    My friend did feel one with sand but it was way too heavy.
     
  10. Da Tinman
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    Bowling ball plug resin, 2 part stuff. Check your local bowling alley. Fill them 1/3 at a time, we use it to fill waterjackets on blown alky motors.
     
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  12. Newbomb Turk
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    How about that expanding foam crap?
     
  13. 64krusty
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    Fusor and 3m both make a catalysed foam that will harden and be light
     
  14. MedicCustoms
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    Fiberglass resin put a little in and put it on its side your going to just coat the inside it will make it stiff
     
  15. plym_46
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    H20, cheap and universally available cleans up well.
     
  16. Von Rigg Fink
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    can you put some flex agent in the paint and not fill the cans at all?..just a thought..im no paint guy..but i did play one on Tv last night..and i did stay at a holiday inn..about a month ago:D
     
  17. I have a bunch of those 1-gallon cans I thought about offering up here on the HAMB for people to do that with. A whole case box of them.

    I would try just using regular Home Depot expanding foam - lay the can on it's side, try and cover the back of that side, and leave with the cap off - do the one furthest from the opening first - as long as it's pretty well covered it should hold it rigid and the cap off should let it cure.
     
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    Any crematories in your area? Uncle Freddy goes to the car show!
     
  19. hotrod-Linkin
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    jello...the cherry flavored,i hate lime.
     
  20. choppintops
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    Yea, thats the stuff, but look around, you can find it cheaper. Why not stuff it full of just packing peanuts?
     
  21. vegas paul
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    Perlite or vermiculite, get it at a nursery. It is like little balls of styrofoam, but organic. It's used for mixing with potting soil to help retain water, very light weight. If you want to try mixing it with some sort of adhesive, test it out first.
     
  22. temper_mental
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    lead shot or use that foam stuff they sell at home depot that comes in a can.
     
  23. Paul2748
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    If the sides are as weak as you say, the expanding foam will push OUT the sides. I used this stuff in a window jamb and it pushed out the wood enough that the window would not go down. Had to dig it all out.
     
  24. Lost_N_Austin
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    The paper idea sounds good. Why don't you use shredded paper from the shredding machine after you run your worthless monthly 401K statement through it. It would still be light and you could control the rigidity by how much paper you stuffed in.

    L_N_A
     
  25. LUX BLUE
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    why not fill them with Gas, water and Oil?
     
  26. Shifty Shifterton
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    Best advice on here. Throw some chopped mat in if you want it extra strong. Stays light too. Pour some in, rotate it around as it solidifies and use tape as a cap so you're not sealing the cap on.

    Follow it up with poly liner and you might even end up with a damn nice spirits container. :)

    BTW if you used expanding foam and the middle cured, it'd almost certainly bulge the container.
     
  27. MIGHTY
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    That was tough. Finnally someone is thinking.. Athough Beer and or bourbon sound like a plan as well.
     
  28. tdoty
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    If you go with the expanding foam insulation, don't fill the whole can in one shot. Might even want to make a plywood box to make sure the can doesn't push out when the foam cures.

    The fiberglass resin sounds like a great idea. If you could find a way to "tumble" it while the resin cures, you'd end up with a fairly thin shell inside the can.

    Tim D.
     
  29. oilslinger53
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    you could use "great stuff". It's some pretty great stuff..
     

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