Register now to get rid of these ads!

Welding and Brazing question

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by mrrocket, Sep 8, 2003.

  1. mrrocket
    Joined: Mar 4, 2001
    Posts: 230

    mrrocket
    Member

    OK, im working on my Triumph frame, and whoever did the chop in the early 70's used brazing rod and shitload of bondo. So my question is: Do I have to get the braze out before I can weld it back up? Or should I use braze over the top of the already brazed areas? Thanks!
     
  2. if it was me, i would clean out the bondo, gring down as needed, and rebraze it.

    not knowing what the bike frame is made of, brazing is the safest route to take, and besides brass has a higher tensile stength than weld metal. if done correctly the tubing will fail
    before the brazed joint will.

    consider formulae 1, light aircraft, etc. used brazing as the weld of choice on tube frames, sometimes because of the chrome moly tube would crack with other welding methods, and sometimes just because it was easier and stronger.

    brazing gets my vote here

    bob
     
  3. yorgatron
    Joined: Jan 25, 2002
    Posts: 4,228

    yorgatron
    Member Emeritus

    most british motorcycle frames were furnace brazed,if you try to melt all the brass out the whole thing would probably collapse.
     
  4. mrrocket
    Joined: Mar 4, 2001
    Posts: 230

    mrrocket
    Member

    brazing it is then...thanks!
     
  5. Unkl Ian
    Joined: Mar 29, 2001
    Posts: 13,509

    Unkl Ian

    In England.brazing is an art form.In North America,brazing is frequently frowned upon because it is too esay for some amateur to do a bad job.
     
  6. CharlieLed
    Joined: Feb 21, 2003
    Posts: 2,464

    CharlieLed
    Member

    [ QUOTE ]
    So my question is: Do I have to get the braze out before I can weld it back up?

    [/ QUOTE ]
    You've already got the answer you need, I thought that I would address your first question; no, you don't ever want to weld steel over brass. If a piece has been brazed and you want to weld it, you must remove all the brass first. I learned this the hard way as a kid, the splatter can get real nasty when the molten steel hits the brass. Good luck with your bike, I agree with the other posters, brazing is the way to go...
     
  7. metalshapes
    Joined: Nov 18, 2002
    Posts: 11,130

    metalshapes
    Member

    Just make really sure there are no bending loads on that part of the frame.
    If there are, welding is stronger ( In bend and/or work hardening )
     
  8. mrrocket
    Joined: Mar 4, 2001
    Posts: 230

    mrrocket
    Member

    well, thankfully im not an amateur, or it would be a problem.

    Started Brazing it today...fun going over someoen elses crap


     

Share This Page

Register now to get rid of these ads!

Archive

Copyright © 1995-2021 The Jalopy Journal: Steal our stuff, we'll kick your teeth in. Terms of Service. Privacy Policy.

Atomic Industry
Forum software by XenForo™ ©2010-2014 XenForo Ltd.