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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by budssuperpro, Apr 3, 2009.

  1. budssuperpro
    Joined: Jul 30, 2008
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    anybody have any idea how much a Hemi 392 long block weight is as compaired to a Small Block 350 Long Block Weight ? both with a 671 and a Hilborn 2 pot . ? anybody ???
     
  2. 35Chevy.com
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    from New Jersey

    Here is the hemi info

    <TABLE border=1 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=3 width=300><TBODY><TR><TD bgColor=#eaeaea>Size (cu-in) </TD><TD align=middle>392 </TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#eaeaea vAlign=top>Power (hp) </TD><TD align=middle>390 @ 5400 </TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#eaeaea vAlign=top>Torque (lb-ft) </TD><TD align=middle>420+ @ 4000 </TD></TR><TR><TD height=5 colSpan=2></TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#eaeaea>Bore (in) </TD><TD align=middle>4.0000 </TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#eaeaea>Stroke (in) </TD><TD align=middle>3.906 </TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#eaeaea>Compression </TD><TD align=middle>10.0:1 </TD></TR><TR><TD height=5 colSpan=2></TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#eaeaea>Carburetor </TD><TD align=middle>2-4V </TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#eaeaea>In Valves (in) </TD><TD align=middle>2.00 </TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#eaeaea>Ex Valves (in) </TD><TD align=middle>1.75 </TD></TR><TR><TD height=5 colSpan=2></TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#eaeaea>Firing Order </TD><TD align=middle>1-8-4-3-6-5-7-2 </TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#eaeaea>Left Bank </TD><TD align=middle>1-3-5-7 </TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#eaeaea>Right Bank </TD><TD align=middle>2-4-6-8 </TD></TR><TR><TD height=5 colSpan=2></TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#eaeaea>Dry Weight (lbs) </TD><TD align=middle>767 </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

    Gary
     
  3. Zookeeper
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    Wow, that's a LOT. No wonder they called the 426 the "elephant"...
     
  4. 35Chevy.com
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    I found a good list......Gary

    engine weight pounds comments





    Allison V12 1160 (160) 1710 CID, 1400 HP aircraft



    AMC V8 540 (late design V8s)

    AMC V8 600 (early design V8s)

    AMC 6 500 (early design six - 199)




    Buick 1953 322 V8 635 (51) OHV V8

    Buick 350 450

    Buick 401 685 (1) ('59 Nail Head)

    Buick 430-455 V8 600 (one ref showed 640) (10 - 600)

    Buick 1963 odd-fire V6 414 (2)

    Buick V6 375

    Buick 3.0 V6 '85-up 350

    Buick/Rover 215 V8 318 (and Olds)

    Buick 1961 215 V8 324 (2)



    Cadillac V8 390 720 (1) ('59)

    Cadillac V8 472-500 625

    Cadillac V8 500 595 (10)

    Cadillac V-16 1,300 (2) (1931) 45 deg.

    Cadillac 331 V8 699 (2) (1949)

    Cadillac Northstar V8 484 (71)

    Cadillac Northstar V8 403 (79) (bare, no accessories)

    Cadillac Northstar V8 464 (80) (dressed)

    Cadillac Northstar V8 404 (155) (without accessories)




    Chevy Corvair flat 6 300

    Chevy Sprint 993cc L4 147 (55) 24L x 20W x 25H (Suzuki mfr)

    Chevy 1.8-2.0 L4 302 (4) (39) "J car" pushrod

    Chevy Chevette 1.6 SOHC 300 (4) (39) (also Opel)

    Chevy Vega L4 285

    Chevy II 153 L4 350

    Chevy L6 194-250 440

    Chevy L6 292 ---

    Chevy L6 216/235 630 (2)

    Chevy L6 216/235 615 (88) "265 V8 was 40# lighter than 235"

    Chevy V6-90 229, 4.3 425

    Chevy V6-60 2.8, 3.1 350 (2)

    Chevy small block V8 575 (generic for '60s-'70s motors)

    Chevy small block V8 535 (1) ('59 Corvette 283 w/alum. intake)

    Chevy LT-5 DOHC 5.7 600 (122)

    Chevy L98 5.7 V8 600 (122)

    Chevy V8 348/409 620 (1)

    Chevy V8 348/408 655 (83)

    Chevy big block V8 685 Mark IV

    Chevy big block V8 --- Mark V

    Chevy 454 675 (10)

    Chevy 427 ZL-1 550 (35) all-aluminum, "20# lighter than SB"


    LS6 Total Dressed Engine Weight
    Auto. - 457.6 lbs. (208 kg)
    Manual - 497.2 lbs (226 kg)




    Chrysler 413 wedge 640 (1) ('59 300-E)

    Chrysler 331 Hemi 745 (5) 1955

    Chrysler M4 tank engine 5,244 (87) 30 cyl, 5 banks of 6, flathead, WWII

    Chrysler 1955 V8 691 (99) Spitfire, 'polyspheric', 300 ci 188 hp

    Chrysler 1955 Hemi 729 (99) Firepower 331.1 ci, 250hp, 1x4v

    Chrysler 1955 300 Hemi 735 (99) C-300, 331.1 ci, 300hp, 2x4v

    Chrysler Patriot 186 (110) gas turbine (part of hybrid EV)

    Chrysler CR2A turbine 410 (111) 1964 Turbine Car, 130hp SAE net



    Cosworth AC V8 ('93) 286 (23,64) 75 degree bank angle

    Cosworth HB 75 deg V8 309 (52,63) 23.4L x 23.3W x 20.5H

    Cosworth HB Series 6 286 (70) 75 deg V8 595mmL

    Cosworth DFV V8 313 (23) 90 degree bank angle

    Cosworth DFR V8 308 (63) 90 degree bank angle

    Cosworth DFX V8 340 (29)

    Cosworth XB V8 260 (29, 89)

    Cosworth V8 375 (87) 1965? F1

    Cosworth MBA 2.5L V6 242 (61,68) 90 deg V

    Cosworth ED 75 deg V8 292 (103) F1, 3 liter 1994

    Cosworth 72 deg V10 440 (134) 4.3L 325hp prototype (street)

    Cosworth V8 370 (136) 1967, with clutch and injection

    Cosworth CR-1 V10 220 (144) 1999 F1



    DeSoto 383 630 (1) ('59)

    DeSoto V8 675 (5) (276-341 CID, '50s)


    Dodge V8 645 (5) (241-325 CID, '50s)

    Dodge 361 625 (1) ('59)

    Dodge Viper V10 716 (24) (30) with accessories

    Dodge Viper V10 ('97) 648 (133) 40# lighter block, 14# lighter heads

    Dodge truck V10 816 (30) ("about 100 pounds heaver")

    Dodge truck V10 836 (34) ("about 120 pounds heaver")

    Dodge truck V10 816 (128) "dressed weight"


    Edsel 361 680 (1) ('59)


    Falconer V12 523 (112) aluminum, small block Chevy based




    Ford England Essex V6 379 (2) (3 liter)

    Ford 3.8 V6-90 351 (4) (w/start, alt, less clutch)

    Ford 3.8 V6-90 311 (18) ("fully dressed")

    Ford 3.8 V6-90 298 (126) "complete"

    Ford Duratec 2.5/3.0 V6 360 (45) ("fully dressed")

    Ford CDW27 60 deg V6 365 (47) "as delivered to assembly plant"

    Ford/Mazda Mondeo V6 225 (64) 60 deg, all aluminum, 4v

    Ford Taurus SHO 3.0/3.2 465 (153) Taurus SHO V6

    Ford 170-250 L6 385 (except Australian w/aluminum head)



    Ford 4.2 V6 488 (161) flexplate and front dress, no A/C

    compressor. Shipping wt w/skid



    Ford flathead V8 525 (124) 1932 model, integral b'hsg, iron heads

    Ford flathead V8 569 (1) ('53 239 CID)

    Ford Cosworth DFV 353 (2) (racing engine, DOHC, 3.0L)

    Ford 255 Windsor 468 (4)

    Ford 289/302 V8 460 (168) (late 5.0s are a bit lighter)

    Ford 221-302W 460 (48)

    Ford Indy 255 pushrod 360 (120) all aluminum, 1963

    Ford Indy 255 DOHC 400 (120) 1964, later known as Foyt Coyote V8

    Ford 5.0 V8 450 (109)

    Ford 5.0 V8 411 (171) 89 Mustang 5.0 GT (dry) inc: manifold,

    carb(?), headers and alternator. Not

    inc: starter, smog pump, power steering

    pump, AC compressor, flywheel

    Ford BOSS 302 500 (48)

    Ford 351 Cleveland 550 (48) (includes BOSS and Australian 302-C)

    Ford 351 Windsor 510

    Ford 351 Windsor 525 (48) (168)

    Ford 351M-400 575 (48)

    Ford Y block V8 625 (272-312 CID)

    Ford FE big block 650 (332-428 CID)

    Ford FE big block 670 (1) ('59 352 CID)

    Ford FE 625 (48)

    Ford 427 SOHC 680 (48)

    Ford 429/460 V8 640

    Ford 429-460 720 (48)

    Ford 460 V8 720 (10)

    Ford BOSS 429 680 (iron block, aluminum heads)

    Ford BOSS 429 635 (48)

    Ford 4.6 SOHC 530 (93) iron block, aluminum heads

    Ford 4.6 SOHC 473 (72)

    Ford 4.6 SOHC 600 (168) (Mustang)

    Ford 4.6 DOHC 464 (72) "9 pounds lighter than SOHC"

    Ford 4.6 DOHC 437 (77) without accessories

    Ford 4.6 DOHC 521 (94) aluminum block and heads

    Ford 4.6 DOHC 576 (168) (Mustang)



    Ford Triton V10 635 (128) "dressed"



    Ford/Seimens 75hp 192 (108) 3-phase electric, with gear drive





    Jaguar V12 680 (57)

    Jaguar/Orbital 3.2 V6 359 (61) supercharged two stroke

    Jaguar 4.2L six 604 (105)

    Jaguar XJ220 V6 427 (73) complete w/turbos, wiring

    Jaguar AJ6 4.0L 531 (118)

    Jaguar AJV8 4.4L 441 (118) "fully dressed"

    Jaguar 3.4-liter XK 576 (148) for the 340 sedan, minus fan, air

    cleaner, clutch, and transmission, and

    without any fluids, but with flywheel,

    electrical equipment, and exhaust

    manifolds.

    Jaguar 3.8 six 592 (148) dress as above

    Jaguar 4.2 six 605 (148) dress as above

    Jaguar 5.3 V12 612 (148) dress as above

    Jaguar 5.3 V12 680 (148) fully dressed for installation



    Lamborghini/Chrysler 299 (8) (1992) V12 Formula 1 motor

    Lamborghini 80 deg V12 330 (70) 1991-1992 V12 F1




    Lincoln 430 740 (1) ('59) (also Mercury 430)





    Mopar Slant Six 475

    Mopar 273-340 "A" V8 525

    Mopar 360 "A" 550

    Mopar 361-383-400 V8 620 (5)

    Mopar 413-426W-440 V8 670 (5) (10)

    Mopar Street Hemi 765 (690 bare)




    Offenhauser 252 355 (142) early '60s, aluminum/magnesium



    Olds 215 V8 318 (same as Buick/Rover)

    Olds 215 V8 345 (170) 1962, 2bbl, dry weight

    Olds 304 "Rocket" V8 671 (2) first Olds V8, 1949



    Olds 304 Rocket V8 680 all accessories, no flywheel

    Olds straight-8 614 (2) '40s motor

    Olds 330 J2 700 (first generation V8)

    Olds 330-400 560 (5) low deck, w/accessories, no flywheel

    Olds 394 725 (1) ('59)

    Olds 371, 394 760 (5)

    Olds 400-455 620 (5) high deck w/accessories, no flywheel

    Olds 455 605 (10)

    Olds 262 V6 Diesel 590 (4) (from GM SAE paper)

    Olds DOHC 4.0 V8 463 (80)(dressed) Olds variant of Cad Northstar





    Plymouth 361 640 (1) ('59)



    Polimotor DOHC 2.0 L4 150 (53) mostly plastic, development motor

    Polimotor L4 179 (106) inc. starter, no clutch or flywheel)\



    Pontiac L4 350 Iron Duke, Tech IV

    Pontiac Tempest slant 4 470

    Pontiac SOHC 6 450

    Pontiac SOHC 6 550 (100)

    Pontiac 389 V8 650

    Pontiac 389 V8 590 (1) ('59)

    Pontiac 301 V8 452

    Pontiac 301 V8 451 complete with air cleaner and starter





    Rover 3500 V8 318 (same as Buick)

    Rover 3.0 SOHC L6 432 (2)

    Rover 2000 four 312 (36) 1960s engine


    Studebaker 289 650




    VW flat-4 air cooled 200

    VW flat-4 air cooled 215 (109)

    VW flat-4 Type IV 311 (109)

    VW flat 4 Type 1 250 (163) 1600cc dual port, stock flywheel,
     

  5. GlenC
    Joined: Mar 21, 2007
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    This site has dimensions as well as weights. Great if you're looking for something to fit between a firewall and a stock radiator...

    http://carnut.com/specs/engdim.html

    Cheers, Glen.
     
  6. budssuperpro
    Joined: Jul 30, 2008
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    Thanks Guys I have some ideal now about the weight I have to deal with looks like the HEMI is about 130 lbs heaver that the S/B Chev which is about .013 sec loss in the quater mile.. ( adverage is .010 loss for every 100 lbs in weight down the track in a quarter mile)
     
    Last edited: Apr 5, 2009
  7. The 426 weighs less than the 392. Completely different animal.

    Either one is a pretty big chunk of iron.
     
  8. Levis Classic
    Joined: Oct 7, 2003
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    Any ideas on dimensions and weight on v8 60?
     
  9. Small enough to make a good motor cycle.

    Hey can i hijack this post?
    It would probably be a big help for the high performance fellas if we as HAMBers compiled a list of weights and dimensions to archive right here on the HAMB.

    I know that I usually say well this one weighs less than that one but if i had a good solid number it would help me with my builds and I'm sure i'm not the only one.
     
  10. Shifty Shifterton
    Joined: Oct 1, 2006
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    The number is more like 200, and don't forget the extra 20lbs of trans adapter. :D

    These f-n things will fold an engine stand that just sweats a little under a BBC.
     
  11. budssuperpro
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    my reason for asking is I run a INJ S/B in my FMD but I was not sure if my Chassis would hold up under that much extra weight after a wheel stand so I think I will pull the inj s/b and put in my Blown s/b instead maybe or then again not . Hummm...
    Thanks Guys
     
  12. Snarl
    Joined: Feb 16, 2007
    Posts: 1,639

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    aluminum heads, intake and a Chevy water pump conversion should bring the weight down to about the same as an all iron SBC.

    Check with the guys at Hot Heads. I would think they could give you a better idea...
     

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