The Jalopy Journal
Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by Joshua Shaw, Jan 17, 2008.
Old Man Bob has it going on!!
Yep! He's a walking encyclopedia on Hot Rods. I think he has a story for every day of his life.
I'd like to introduce myself. My name is Wayne Johnson. I have (5) Midgets, (1) Sprint car, (1) Super Modified, and (1) Indy Car. I will be posting pictures as soon as I can master it. Thank for allowing me to join you.
Don't believe I've ever seen a trailer laid out quite like that. Makes for a nice compact trailer for hauling a sprint car.
Hi Wayne, been a year or more since our paths have crossed.
You should get with the Vintage "Cageless" Midget Picture Thread as well when you get to posting pictures.
Do I remember you have a Trostle midget that Chuck Snyder used to own? Chuck passed a month or so ago.
Indianapolis Racer...Who is the driver of the #32 sprinter
Karl Orr bought that car from Bruce Bromme Sr. It had an Offy in it when Bromme ran it. I don't know who Karl sold it to but it had a 6 cylinder GMC in it when I bought it 35+ years ago.
He's also a great friend of mine!! He's a walking encyclopedia of early Fords and has owned his '34 roadster since 1951 and I still stand that it has the best top I've ever seen on a chopped roadster of any model! Just wish he would change his hard headed mind and at least come back to the Frog Follies in Evansville, IN....Joe
You won't believe it, but those rails on that trailer are from an old school bus frame! He used to be a bus mechanic and got one when they de-comissioned it and made that trailer for the car.
He heated it with a rose bud torch and bent it over a barrel. Unbelievable! He said that's the way they used to do it. The guy is a GENIUS!
I am looking for some help identifying this midget race car. It looks like a Kurtis, but I don't know that much about any of these types of cars. Any ideas would be appreciated.
Yes, the nose looks like it could be a Kurtis or a copy. Removing the items that are entombing the car and providing more pictures from different angles, under the hood and the frame kick up from inside or underneath would be a next step.
If it's a Kurtis, there will be a frame number stamped on the main frame tube in the cowl area, or on the frame tube behind the tail hoop in the fuel tank area. My Kurtis had the number, 275, stamped both places. Is there a little Kurtis Kraft brass plaque on the dash?
Not only are there items entombing this vintage midget as you can see in the picture, but this thing is sitting in a basement with no egress to ground level! We will have to disassemble it to get it up the stairs and out of it's "tomb". Been down there many, many decades! I like Barn Finds, but Basement Finds are cool as well. Just harder to load on your trailer...
Johnny White drove #32
...a few stand outs at Amelia Island this year....
That 99 has such a presence. Might be my new favorite roadster! I really like the hood hinge detail over the cam covers. Such great craftsmanship.
Stand outs is right! Thanks Gary
The engine in the 34 car done by Bill Akin...car restored by Phil Reilly and owned by Joe Freeman...great job by all! Joe
Just thought about it and Bill Akin also did the Offy for the #99 Belanger Spl....Joe
The #34 Auto Shippers car was Rutt's "comeback" car for 1954. Supposedly, the owner offered him a extra $1000 a lap for every lap he could lead. Ended up burning off the RR and spinning out trying but still finished a fine 4th.
I am wondering about the "hairpin style" front axle wishbones on the #10 Bear car. Were those type used that far back in time? I ask because I chose to use that style on my replica and it would be nice to know some cars back then ('30s?) had them instead of the more conventional split wishbones. Maybe it was a later upgrade on this car, yes/no?
Don't know about the #10 car, but they were available from the Frontenac catalog in 1929 for the T type axles.
Thanks Rootie. I find the other speed parts pictured also interesting - especially since it was so long ago. I always assumed most running gear came from the junkyards.
BZNEIL...I can't remember any red trim around the gold fleck paint on any Belanger cars. What do you think
Good to see that you are on here Mr. Crawford. I have the chassis and some body panels, and plan on bringing it back to life as a champ car. My brother had explained that you may have purchased this car from someone in Anderson, IN but the name of that person may be lost. So if some remembrance comes to you, we would be anxious to hear.
To: Historic Champ/Indycar Group Dist. List. (All addresses hidden for security)
From: Carl Schulz Indio, CA (Forwarding Info at request of Pam Shatraw, SVRA Oval Events)
Last Updated from Pam at SVRA 12:00 May 4, 2015
‘TWO’ SVRA SANCTIONED BACK-TO-BACK OVAL EVENTS UPCOMING AT AUTO CLUB SPEEDWAY
JUNE 19-21, 2015
JUNE 25-27, 2015
Call Pam Shatraw SVRA Oval Events at 650 799 0826: for details, questions, updates, entry forms, registration, and event information. Talk with Pam regarding push start accommodations.
SVRA HISTORIC SPORTS CAR FESTIVAL JUNE 19 – 21, 2015
TENTATIVE INDY/CHAMPCAR OVAL EXHIBITION TRACK SCHEDULE
Thursday June 18
12:00 Trailer Parking and unloading – see Pam.
Friday June 19
08:30 Mandatory Drivers Meeting
12:05 Group E Session #1 on Oval for Historic Champ/Indycars
4:35 Group E Session #2 on Oval for Historic Champ/Indycars
Saturday June 20
11:55 Group 9 Oval Exhibition Laps for Historic Champ/Indycars
4:40 Group 9 Oval Exhibition Laps for Historic Champ/Indycars
Sunday June 21
08:30 Group 9 Oval Exhibition Laps for Historic Champ/Indycars
12:30 Group 9 Oval Exhibition Laps for Historic Champ/Indycars
OVAL EXHIBITION SHOW
AUTO CLUB SPEEDWAY DURING THE VERIZON INDYCAR SERIES
JUNE 25-27, 2015
INDY AND CHAMPIONSHIP CARS ARE INVITED TO APPLY
The on-track Oval Exhibition is organized by SVRA and Presented by Victory Lane Magazine and the HCICA.
The schedule is still being worked on and will be posted at the SVRA website SVRA.COM under ‘coming events.’
Overview of the event includes: Paddock Garages for each entrant, parties, autograph sessions, and more.
Thursday June 15: Noon start registration car unloading (see Pam for Garage Assignment)
June 2015 MAVTV 500 INDYCAR weekend, June 26-27 on track ‘preliminary’ schedule
Friday June 26: Historic Cars Track Time:
-10:40 - 11:00
1:45 - 2:05
Saturday June 27 Historic Cars Track Time
9:00 Am - 9:20
11:45-12:05 - pre race show, two side by side pace laps.
IndyCar race starts 1:30
Pam is working on the potential for those participating at both back-to-back events of being able to leave your car and trailer at the track in the interim between the two.
Call Pam Shatraw SVRA Oval Events at 650 799 0826: for details, questions, updates, entry forms, registration, and event information.
Love looking at the photo's of cars that became led gents back in the day.
The style and engineering that went into these cars is mind boggling and they have a classic look to them that will live forever.
twenty three days without a post on this thread, ouch
Well here is a jewel that towed in to Anderson, IN and Indianapolis Hoosier Hundred last week all the way from Rhode Island! I had seen this car before several years ago when it was white and totally ignored it, not realizing it's heritage.
After posting this, a question was raised as to the accuracy of what I hade posted based on conversations and documentation at the track regarding the car's history. For that reason I have now deleted that information and will attempt to get clarification.
Photos are from the Midwest Oldtimers Vintage Race Car Club website
The Hart Fullerton car was not a stretched Midget, but a purpose built Champ Car, and its engine not a supercharged 110 but a new 176-ish CID engine based on a '220' block.
Rutt in the H-F car circa 1951.
Separate names with a comma.