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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by John Copeland, Oct 1, 2003.

  1. John Copeland
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    Would my new engine be considered traditional or are we talk'in gold chainer?

    Shoe
     

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  2. hemi
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    Well, if ya have to ask....... [​IMG]
     
  3. Fraz
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    Do you want that chain in white or yellow gold, or perhaps the colors of black hills gold? [​IMG]

    Actually it's not bad, just ditch the billet pulleys and funky valve covers.
     
  4. Antibilly
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    Looks great.....but yea, Whats up MR T!!!!! [​IMG]
     
  5. 36couper
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    Who cares. As long as you like it, that's all that matters. I like it though. Traditional? Ask 10 guys and get 11 opinions.
     
  6. plan9
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  7. trad if talking '94, haha... hey, dood, that motor is clean and nice! who cares, i'd swap ya motors anytime.
     
  8. DrJ
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    I think pretty engines are like woman's underwear, best kept hidden except for those "special occasions".
    Hoodless Hotrods hang it out there to intimidate, (or keep the coolant in the radiator in town). ( Women hang there underwear out to advertize for business?)
    Forty Fords are a beautiful car, but not with all the access panels hanging open.
    If it's got a hood keep it closed. And the doors and the trunk.


    That engine looks sharp.
    Yea, I think sharp is the word.

    If I was going to change anything I think it would be that turbulence causing rippled radiator hose. B especially with the system taxing AC. Bend a piece of welding rod or coat hanger wire to the shape you need and go to a parts house that still has them hanging on the cieling on hooks and pick out a size fit-um. You may have to shorten one to make it fit.
     
  9. NealinCA
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    I think the monchromatic paint scheme takes away from a traditional look.

    Same basic components here on KCTA Chris's 39, but a different look...

     

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  10. John Copeland
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    I just thought I'd throw this out to see what kind of opinions were out there, interesting responses. Yep, you nailed the alternator pully, I needed something small and it's all I had, although you can't see the other pulleys, but they are stock steel. "Funky valve covers", I had a pair of So-Cal chrome ones on here, and changed them when I bought the Air Cleaner from O'Brien Truckers. I'm using Harlan Sharp roller rockers so I needed to stick with something tall. I tried to keep this simple, because most of the serious hardware is on the inside. In 1965 I was a senior in High School and I worked my butt off to put together a 1958 Chevy (Delray), two door sedan. It had a 098 cam, pair of WCFB Carter four barrels, Chev dual point distributor, Vette valve covers, three speed OD. So to me, this is close, I guess it depends on where and when you grew up. I didn't have to ask, I was just curious.

    Thanks,

    Shoe
     
  11. DrJ's new signature:

    "I believe there is a certain black-hole in the universe, full of 9/16" sockets and wrenches."

    That same hole has a big batch of single socks, that match a batch I have here on earth exactly, 2 pairs of my favorite jeans, and my ability to tolerate anything on TV with a laugh track.

    I dig it.

    But, it's a SBC, it couldn't possibly be traditional, they've only been making them since 1955. Am I right nailhead guys!!
     
  12. DrJ
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    [ QUOTE ]
    DrJ's new signature:

    "I believe there is a certain black-hole in the universe, full of 9/16" sockets and wrenches."

    That same hole has a big batch of single socks, that match a batch I have here on earth exactly, 2 pairs of my favorite jeans, and my ability to tolerate anything on TV with a laugh track.

    I dig it.

    But, it's a SBC, it couldn't possibly be traditional, they've only been making them since 1955. Am I right nailhead guys!!

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    So if Chevy came out with the SBC a year earlier, with the nailhead in '54, it too would be traditional?
    Oh, you're making a joke... [​IMG]
     
  13. Kevin Lee
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    Chris' hood looks best on the wall...or stored in the rafters...or anyplace else that isn't on his '39. [​IMG]
     
  14. Because of my engineering background I don't focus as much on looks as I do on function. When I build my lakes modified it will appear traditional on the outside but will be much more modern "under the skin". Conversely, I see so many cars at shows, etc. that have the flashy paint and wheels but, after I look underneath, are downright scary-lookin' and poorly done from a design standpoint.

    If it works....I like it ! [​IMG]
     
  15. fab32
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    SJFast, I couldn't agree with you more. When I see a car that catches my interest I immediately get down and look at what is underneath. Its a habit I have from building racing chassis for almost 20 years. If what I see underneath has been done poorly from a consstruction or engineering standpoint I walk away. If the foundadion is junk who cares about the fluff on top.

    Frank

     
  16. Fat Hack
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    Amen, Fab! Impress me by driving it a few thousand miles without it breaking in half or making you walk! You GOTTA build 'em to stay together and run reliably first...THEN ya can make 'em pretty if that's your bag!

     
  17. Fatchuk
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    Traditional like in RICER..... [​IMG]
     
  18. hatch
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    I would call it traditional(reminds me of my neighbors 56 vette he showed me in 62)...about the same setup I have,except I have no creature comforts(a/c). I've only had the car on the road since 98, but since then, the only failures have been two defective (or maybe I wore em out) ignition switches.
     

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  19. Elrod
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    Traditional? Let me look and see if it's in the guide....
    [​IMG]
     
  20. John Copeland
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    SJ,
    This is the engine that is in the 40 coupe I showed you yesterday. It was a good rust free car when I started on it in 1989. I drove the car in primer for seven years then blew it apart and painted it. I put the air in it two years ago at my Wife's request and we haven't been back to Louisville since, but I do use the heat here in Ohio and took the time to build some defroster ducts that work. I've put 40K miles on this car since I've had it, so it's a driver. The motor is fresh, about a year now. Dart rods, forged pistons, comp cams camshaft, moly pushrods, steel crank, RPM Performer heads, roller rockers, Mallory and MSD, started by deburring and painting the inside of the block, +.030 bored and honed with the torque plates, etc., ballanced. 2500 stall B & M Hole Shot, shift kit, 3:55, 8" posi, leaf springs and traction bars. Stewart Warner guages, Moon tach on the dash, The car hooks and runs strong for a driver and she's just as nice on the bottom as it is on the top. I've had some help from some good friends that are talented in the areas that I am not.
    I started this post just to see what kind of a responce I'd stir up, I read as Ryan moderated this same subject last week. There are a lot of talent folks watching, reading and communicating on this site. We're all looking at the world through a different set of eyes with a very close connection through our love of cars. I found it enteresting that after all the Titus bashing, and I from an Engineering perspective, also agreed with some of what he said, nothing has been said since. His article lives on in the Goodguys rag and life goes on. I'm glad that he stayed on-board, because everyone has a view and whatever it is, it doesn't make them bad guys or wrong. SJ, scanning your website last night, you are one talented individual! Hatch, I'm one of the old farts that runs with Skipstitch, I do his armrests and help with Rev. You guys all have a great evening, I've said my share.

    Shoe
     
  21. AHotRod
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    Sure is purdy ....Traditional?
     
  22. nailhead_sled
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    [ QUOTE ]

    So if Chevy came out with the SBC a year earlier, with the nailhead in '54, it too would be traditional?


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    Not to be a dick but it was '53.
     
  23. Fraz
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    Those are finned valve covers? In that case leave em. They just look odd from the angle of the pic.

    And yeah, what sled said about nailheads.
     
  24. I'd say no but I'm real anal. Replace the AC compressor with a two piston unit out of a 60s aftermarket unit, the alternator with a generator, the lokar cables with modified ford linkage, sandblast the edlebrock carbs, loose the moon breathers, puke tank and plastic rad shroud and you are back to the early 60s. I don't know what traditional means anymore. Dave
     
  25. Looks OK to me...
    But mine doesn't have that cylindrical thingie next to the traditional alternator
     

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  26. Are we talkin' traditional as in Bare Bones or Show Car. You could hang the A/C pump down low and hide it. But it would still be there. A/C is nice when its 104 and you're stuck in traffic. HA
    I'm not big on the glittery stuff. But that doesn't make it not traditional. I just don't like wippin' it off.
    Next question, whose tradition are we shootin' at. Dry Lakes racer, 50s Custom, 40s?
    Then of course you have to go by whose remembering.
    Maybe you could take your billet pulleys and have them cast. Then they wouldn't be billet anymore. Or someone told me awhile back if its painted it don't count as billet. But his back was bad from carryin' all that gold chain.
    Your mill looks fine Bro [​IMG] Leave it if you like it like that.On the other hand, I got some real knarly lookin' rusty beat up ol' stuff layin around. Wanna trade?

    if it don't make ya dirty it aint yours [​IMG]
     
  27. Jeff Norwell
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    Your mill looks fine Bro [​IMG]


    DITTO
     

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