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  1. Tim
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    Random bits and pieces update. 668FB270-DA03-475D-B2A7-BCC53741840A.jpeg haven't got the rear u bolt plates on but it looks like they should do the job with out a spacer. Didn’t get them on because the holes, the u bolt ends, and the plate all measure the same but for some reason when it’s together the u-bolt ends are to far apart to slide on. Not relay any good spot to pry them on either.

    I’d rather not slot the holes, maybe I can slide the u bolts up u til they just barely peak out of the crossmember and slide the plate in then and then slide it all down? F472C884-A29F-4B93-8391-413B73D91D6E.jpeg B0077ED1-BEC0-405D-9F31-3459C79414FC.jpeg got the carb adapter on after a little filing and found that — kids waking up I’ll edit this later
    lol

    Ok so I get the adapter onto the manifold and found that I can’t actually get a nut onto the the stud. It looks like a bolt head will fit though so I guess I need to pull the studs and use bolts and it should work fine.

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    Just a few shots showing how it all sits with it on
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    And check that out! Still level after dropping both ends of the car! Safe to assume that I maintained my rake!
     
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  2. redzula
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    My u bolts did the same thing on my '47 I think I needed to just pry/clamp then enough to get it started and then it went on ok after that.

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  3. Austin kays
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    I have a method to get those in I’ll swing by with my special tools to help ya. 20mins tops


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  4. Keep strokin, Tim! I'm pulling for ya!
     
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  5. Tim
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    Silver lining of the 46 getting worked on is having an actual shock instead of a cardboard tube to mock up :) 765ED9C5-68EA-430D-B765-FE9DD1F9C93D.jpeg it does want to land towards the back side of the brace but shouldn’t be an issue. Got lots of room to play
     
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  7. Tim
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    Random bits.

    Picked up some cleaned up parts last night. My buddy Ryan put in the hours and took apart the spare box @flatout51 gave me and it netted us a better cap, a good core box and a few other good odds and ends

    Also it looks like the rear shocks from a 68 corvette should fit perfect and are $19.99 per from Napa! So I think those will end up in the front.

    Off to buy some more paint and some odds and ends
     
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  8. Tim
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    Little paint and it’s ready to go! C7F93B41-6B12-4C7D-BB4F-0CB00EB20446.jpeg
     
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  10. Wait.....Ryan "put in the horse"???? WTF?
     
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  11. Tim
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    I don’t question his methods if they get results lol
     
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  12. Tim
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    Back from the hotrod hill climb. Man what an insanely good event. If your into traditional hot rods making noise and incredible views you owe it to yourself to make it there.

    Random detail shots in random order

    These two T’s were close to the right color but I mostly took photos of the rajo and fronty for reference of how they actually are 6A6E3558-9351-404B-99E3-B5B8935E3FA7.jpeg D0096253-826B-4837-A334-1CABE9EC4656.jpeg 2568D1F5-26F6-4254-BCE9-5FF1DCE10444.jpeg 53908E53-5337-4532-BAC6-CE3879B311D1.jpeg FAA5B2A4-1F9B-4B79-ABF3-F60EFFF42910.jpeg 089EAEA0-0442-436C-837D-565180FDB745.jpeg 59BB1202-3F24-457A-A420-73CDE3C72C56.jpeg EE5950C4-FA77-426F-A5F1-45836DCF467A.jpeg Cool little scoops on this sedan. Never did see under neath 1E8F5CDC-A4FC-4CCE-A520-A6D8E81A7020.jpeg another hot banger in a Vicki 5440FFD0-0A82-465B-AEAE-FB967A5AEA29.jpeg big heads on this flatty, very cool coupe 54D5DF8A-C476-42E7-9AAD-F0BEA9139E38.jpeg 4CB8526E-0F14-4B45-B32F-24C8C739476C.jpeg a Riley set up 6DE9D0AE-A195-4C28-8138-4AEE5DE43E38.jpeg buddy mounted his gauges and switch to the floor in his little T roadster. C796339A-4AAE-46DD-9688-160417792737.jpeg This roadster is about dead on the ditches blue we want on the car. Though this car wasn’t as glossy as I’d like. I don’t think it’s primer or matte, probably just not polished etc 430B2D50-5669-48BF-AB9B-AB5D7EB22FA3.jpeg took a LOT of photos of it and different times of the day and angles trying to get one that showed the accurate color B7BCAD8B-6B91-4CD2-987C-6024F5887E3F.jpeg it looks a lot more blue in some of these photos but it definitely has that green hue in person like the A color. 73C7B19B-6722-49A7-9417-D87D3B0A6BAC.jpeg 8AEC99A7-6E69-4F73-9084-88A71F02C4A9.jpeg C986E79B-8CD2-4A66-87B2-9A140634BF1F.jpeg These hood top hold downs were kinda cool/different. I think the bracket is bolted to the firewall, the chain is bolted to the visible bolt and the clip pin is going threw a pin that’s going down off the hood top.

    Always see threads and conversations about different ways of holding down a hood top and hadn’t see this before 9593C8ED-42E1-49D3-A791-E455720B2042.jpeg saw this cooper in George Town and it’s looking like the exact color we’d been hunting! I’ve kept an eye out trying to find a new car with the right color on it because it seemed like even if we needed it mixed with no metallic it’s newer/ more familiar color for most paint places over trying to match a 1928-1931 color 7180F777-CC17-477C-A869-91820A58BE82.jpeg looks like they used a color named island blue for a few years but the photos I could find of a 17’ looked more like the color we saw in person.

    That’s about it for now :) still pretty tired after 1560 miles haha
     
  13. Mike Colemire
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    a lot of cool stuff there. The blue really looks good.
     
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  14. Tim
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    The plan for now is the blue color on the body and hood. Black on the fenders, aprons and grill.

    Thinking a lighter mint tone for some pinstripes to kinda pull the green out a little.

    Saw some cool cars at the event that had the grill shell insert and the wheels painted an accent color but I’m not sure how to do that with an A grill that doesn’t look over whelming compared to a 32 grill.

    I’m thinking about doing the wheels gloss black with a double pinstripe around the edge in 2 line weights and the ford in the cap filled with the same color.

    Body will probably be striped as stock.

    Trying to sneak in these colors with out it taking away from the aggressive feeling of the car.
     
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  15. Inked Monkey
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    I need to rig up some chains like that for my hood pins!
     
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  16. Tim
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    Could do metal cable as well
     
  17. Six Ball
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    Those Ts have been tweaked a bit since they were at the Inliner Convention in 2012.
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  18. Tim
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    I take that as a sign that they actually get driven :) wish I’d been able to hear them run
     
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  19. Tim
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    So damn close 90AF277C-ED0D-4E60-B749-FE45593DAFEA.jpeg got the gear around 400 deg and stuck the shaft in a cooler of ice for 20 minutes. Got about a half inch to go and it’s just not budging.

    Gonna go ice my hand I hammered and in a day or so try again with an 8 pound lead hammer and some extra hands
     
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  20. Tim
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    On the upside I got all the hardware and holes for the steering box chased and good to go. Should be making another try at getting the missing bearing race Sunday. My buddy and I see each other often but I either forget to ask about it or he forgets to bring it lol.

    It’s clearly a very high priority item lol
     
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  21. flatout51
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    I've found only heating works better than icing and heating. The super cold part seems to cool the heated part very quickly and bamo stuck.
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  22. Tim
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    Noted.
     
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    Wouldn’t be the first time I’ve had to take something back apart again lol.

    And likely not the last time I’ll do this
     
  25. Tim
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    Bigger heat source, bigger hammer, bigger dude.

    Gear is in place!
     
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  26. Tim
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    I’ve had pin stripe location and colors on my mind lately as well with the talk about finding the correct blue.

    839E90F9-0BE8-4340-936A-2EAB6AAB0A4B.jpeg 64E672C8-F0D0-419F-A06C-AC984C9D29B8.jpeg I’ve been somewhere between a panel stripe or the stock locations. It’ll be pretty minimal either way.
    791E77B4-EB41-4FFD-B63F-D0A04728FE4E.jpeg I was talking to Neko last night and he noticed this skate deck in my work space has basically ditched blue and Washington blue together and it dawned on my that maybe I could go with a darker tone for the stripes instead of a brighter mint color.

    We’ve talked two tone since the start of this projects and we saw some cars on the trips that had the grill insert and wheels painted a contrasting color. My wife dug it and this is more or less a car for her so I’m trying to incorporate that idea with out making it distracting or taking away from the subtle aggressiveness I’m trying to accomplish.

    I’m thinking maybe I’ll do the darker color for the body pin stripes and then do a pop of the lighter mint color on the grill shell, the ford in the hub caps, and a single or double line stripe on the edge of the wheels.

    Ok, enough morning rambling haha.
     
  27. waxhead
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    Glad to see that the steering box is coming together. I have to rebuild mine soon, so have been watching to see how you have been progressing. Thanks for posting. Keep the updates coming.
     
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  28. What about the Washington Blue on the fenders instead of black?
     
  29. Tim
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    @cactus1 hadn’t considered that. I’ll have to play around with it. Since I found that cooper color I’m going to see if I can find a can of rattle can touch up paint to spray some test panels to 1: see if it looks right and 2: to have Neko paint on and see what it actually looks like.

    Pretty easy to find a close enough match for Washington blue so maybe I’ll rattle can a fender and see what’s what :)

    @waxhead cool man, I’m getting so close to getting it together! I think it’s like 3-5 different shitty boxes with a few good pieces put together to make one good one so far lol.

    Gonna get it steering then push it outside to brace up and replace/ patch together the subrails.

    I’m ecstatic about the idea of it being outside. I had put the floor later in my plan for the fall but figured it was the only project that it would absolutely need to be done outside in the driveway and could possibly take a lot longer than expected. The rest of my list can be done inside during shitty weather pretty easy.

    Plan is get the bearing race Sunday, but tubing for the column mast Tuesday, press the bearing race in and hone the sector bushings Wednesday and put the box together and in the car Sunday.

    Gotta sneak some 46 time in there somewhere but not sure where. Kind of a bummer not getting to drivenit much this summer but generally I get to drive it all the way threw December if I’m lucky so I’m holding out hope for a lot of good fall driving on that one
     
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  30. Tim
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    Some nasty weather over the weekend ment I didn’t get my bearing race but I figured I’d get moving anyways A7DE9886-9D7B-4B58-9544-7657361BEDE9.jpeg ford stamp on the old sector bushing. I love finding this stamped on dang near everything.

    I got the new ones pressed in. I pushed one in from either end figuring an unsupported center made more since than having it on an end we’re you could feasible translate that into slop.

    F0B01586-FD91-4256-8466-ABF2BA2F4170.jpeg Got everything laid out and accounted for. All threads cleaned up and chased. I need to “hone” the bushings a little tiny bit to get the sector shaft to slide in. Some guys use a garden hose wrapped with sand paper. It shouldn’t take much. You can almost get it in as is but I think it would force the bushings out because it’s just a tiny bit to tight.

    I think I may have a wood dowel that will be the right size. I’ll wrap it in some 2000 grit tonight when I have time and slowly open them up.

    After they fit I suppose I could fit the sector shaft seal. I don’t see it being any easier to do with the shaft in place.

    Am wondering which way I should face it however. There’s the tiny little groove on one side of the seal. I come up with just as many reasons to go one way as the other way. Thinking I’ll put the groove facing in so if it’s catching anything it’s grease and not random road garbage?

    Going to grab pipe for the column tomorrow morning and snag some gear oil for the box.

    Figuring if I have this all done and ready that when the bearing race is in hand it’ll take about 30 minutes to get the box together, in the car and steering.

    Then this suckers going outside!!
     
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