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    posted by swi66 in the vintage thread

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    LIL Screamer in Arizona

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    Saw this on instagram this morning. So badass.

    Not my car but if I had the cash it would be.
     
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    A & H Delivery


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    Fred's Plastic Toy

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    Magic Muffler ?? Not sure

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    yes, Magic Muffler after replacing Fiat body[​IMG]
     
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    posted by 296ardun in the in motion thread

    Once unblown and on gas...still won a lot of races.

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    GAB

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    Lil Screamer

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    Magic Muffler at Lions on ONE wheel !!

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    Magnificent Seven

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    No NOT all mine. I search the web for them for your viewing pleasure :) If they come with photographers credit I leave that on them so in some shots you can see who took them. Like in the Magic Muffler shot above.
     
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    Leroy Chadderton's "tall" version of the Magnificent 7 was followed by a low rider iteration and then a funny car. He retired from driving in 1975 and passed away in April of 2008

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    Jack Ditmars out of Illinois. Read his story here: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~mikebridgeman/history.html
    Also note George "Bushmaster" Schreiber's Yellow Fang trailer in the background.
    The photo is by Darwin Bush who shot a lot at Cordova, Great Lakes etc. The photos above of Gabby Bleeker and the Magnificent 7 are also from his archives and were brought to the web by the Bangshift crew.

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    Gary Burgin vs KS Tiger Pittman

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    Not an altered. Burgin's 27 T was a street roadster and in the era when the photo was shot these cars often ran with the gassers in So-Cal.

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    It looks like the motor was placed even further forward than the maximum setback allowed at the time. The Orange Baron figured it out before some others did.

    From Google:
    ... despite his uncanny success on the match race trail, the guy whom we came to know as the “Orange Baron” – he lived in Southern California’s Orange County, but, as you'll read later, that wasn't how he got the name -- forever carved his place in the history and trivia books when he defeated Don Prudhomme in the final round of the 1976 U.S. Nationals, the guy who stopped the sport’s first perfect season dead in its tracks at the most high-profile event on the tour.

    R.I.P. Gary
     
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    Don Brown archives ....''I knew this car. Shreve's Automotive of Shreveport, Louisiana, owned this car, which was known as Hank's Tank or simply, The Tank. It ran as a B/Altered with a blown small-block Chevy on gas. It was C/altered but if you added a supercharger automatically you were now B/altered

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    Gary Cochran's roadster for sale

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  18. Gary's roadster was a Comp roadster, not an altered.
     
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    Actually Steve Plueger figured it out as this is either the former Bilby, Densham and Plueger roadster or a clone. The car was built for the /SR (Street Roadster) class and thus was restricted to the same 10% engine set back as the gassers. Due to that ruling the AA/SR cars quite often raced with the gassers in So-Cal as they were pretty closely matched performance wise. Although the car lacks the grille shell and headlights as seen in the photo it is still basically a /SR and not an altered.
    Edit: I just talked with Gary Densham and this is not his old ride. He said that Burgin built it after seeing the B/D/P roadster in action. Densham also said that he built the roadster to replace his 33 Willys because a 27 T body was way cheaper than another Willys and as stated above they were racing together anyway..

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    Re: The Burgin AA/ car
    I love studying the details of these old photos, looking for insight as to how things were done and why. So judging by the OCIR placard between the lanes I'd say the pic was shot somewhere between the start beams and the 60 ft. clocks. Both his front tires are just a few inches off the ground more or less equally > 100% of the car's weight on the rear tires. I've battled wheelstanding altereds and came to my own conclusion that they work better by careful placement of the block plate. Just because the rules said you can do something doesn't mean you should do something and max engine setback is one of those rules.

    My "Last Logghe" car is a prime example of how it works much better when I moved the engine forward five inches:

    on the way UP
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    After moving the engine forward (before adjusting the corner weights)
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    Yep, with modern tires and sticky tracks having the motor further out can be a good thing. I was talking altereds with long time fuel altered shoe Howard Haight on Wednesday and he mentioned that the Fiat that he drove a couple of years back had the motor only about 55" out and due to that it was prone to wheelstanding (at half track when he shifted). That said, at the time that the photo of Burgin's car was taken things were in transition and most altereds were at the mandated maximum 25% while that car was built for the 10% /SR rule. Yes, it was capable of carrying the front wheels but it was not as quick as a true altered would have been with the same power.

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    Oties

    Fiat

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    Fearless Fly

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    Wow, haven't seen those names in awhile. If I remember this was one nasty little Fiat.
     
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    Great shot of Mondello's fiat

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    For you Chevy lovers :)

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    Wish I had my camera today. Had lunch with Mikio Yoshioka and Rich Guasco.
     
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  27. How did lunch with Guasco come about Mark?
     
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    The last time that I had lunch with Rich was in the pits at Bakersfield.

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    He showed up at Mikios with a couple friends, and got a call to join them...
     
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