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Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by Paul, Jul 20, 2010.

  1. Great work. There's something so appealing about simple,
    no nonsense Hot Rod build-ups. Very inspiring.
    Thanks for sharing your photos. CM
     
  2. rd martin
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    sure wish i could find those 50 olds parts to shorten my lasalle trans for another project.
     
  3. greaser
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    Paul, you make it look so easy.....I wonder why mine is still a pile of parts!
    Keep up the great work, I'm looking forward to the rest of the build.
     
  4. JeffreyJames
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    This thing is so f'ing awesome Paul!!! Your work is killer man.
     
  5. The37Kid
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    HOW DID I MISS THIS THREAD??????? Great workmanship a parts combo. My Lyndwood rail had a La Salle side shift trans, SBC to La Salle to '46 Ford rear. Back in the day the Lyndwood shop offered the modified parts to do this. Are there rebuild kits for these tramsmissions? It has been years since I took mine apart and in the back of my head I keep thinging a needle bearing went lost.
     
  6. Thanks for the reply. This is a great build, very informative.
    -mikethegreek-



     
  7. thunderbirdesq
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    Awesome... Did you buy your bun panels or make them?
     
  8. GRSMNKYCUSTOMS
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  9. Paul
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    I bought the lower patch panels
     
  10. -Brent-
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    Excellent, Paul! I'm saving this thread, for sure. A lot of great ideas here... thanks.
     
  11. HeyyCharger
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    Looking great Paul!

    Y block is looking good too.

    Love a nice early built '27 Roadster!

    HC.
     
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  12. 27 T roadsters are one of my fav cars and yours looks awesome so far. cant wait to see how it turns out.
     
  13. HotRodMicky
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    Where do you see a Y-Block?
    Looks Olds to me...
     
  14. Paul
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    yesterday I started repairing the panel below the deck lid

    a 4" grinder with 1/16" disc and a sharp wood chisel got it all apart pretty quick
    I was hoping to reuse the inner bracing but it was for the most part too far gone to save


    so I ripped some new pieces of channel from some square,
    and heated, hammered and welded some reasonable facsimilies of the original pieces




    clamp, check, tack, check, spot, check, weld, check...



    ground the spot welds flush,
    washed it all down with phosphoric acid (Ospho brand metal prep) inside and out



    and there ya have it.

     
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  15. -Brent-
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    Holy cow, Paul. Seriously... I'd like a "reasonalble facsimile" of a decklid skeleton to put a skin on. :D
     
  16. Paul
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    that, I am still working on in my head..

    shouldn't be to tough.. right? :)
     
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  17. -Brent-
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    Obviously NOT tough for you. :D I can't wait to see more.
     
  18. Hey Paul,
    Was that a Howell's lower decklid panel? Mine seems to be a little too "tall".

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    If you can see the bottom edge, it sticks out about 3/4 inch too far. Can you do me a favour and measure fold to fold on yours? I'm going to have to refold mine but just curious what other panels measure at.
     
  19. I SMELL SMOKE
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    very nice work Paul you make it look easy!!!
     
  20. thunderbirdesq
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    Mine appears to need some adjustment as well. It's not too tall, it's too wide!

    As usual, stellar work Paul. :cool:

     
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  21. Paul
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    I don't know who made the skin,
    I picked it up a one of the local swap meets from a small time vendor

    but height and width were very close to the original

    measuring from the top; 1/2" to the bottom of the step and 11-1/16" overall from top flange to the bottom flange

    width is 35-1/4" out to out.

    I wasn't too worried about height, as I figured I would have to make my own deck lid.

    ...while we are at it, what exactly does the deck lid measure?

    stock or repop..
     
  22. chaddilac
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    Nice work Paul!!! Love it!
     
  23. Paul
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    started repairing the upper deck panel,

    the bottom edge of the skin looked pretty bad, rusted through in one spot,
    so I removed about 2-1/2" of the skin
    and it exposed more serious rust in the inner bracing


    not as bad as the lower panel thankfully,
    but still enough to need some removal and replacement


    I cut just the outer flange of the lower bracing off and replaced it with new steel,


    cut a strip of sheet metal to replace the skin and started working the edge over


    trimmed, folded and clamped it in place


    tacked it every couple inches


    and checked it for fit,


    looks good enough to finish,
    that should happen tomorrow.. it's late and I need to sleep
     
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  24. Southfork
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    Paul, why the '50 merc axles? What are the advantages of them, and are they worth the hassle of modifying the axle tubes?
     
  25. Paul
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    "drop in" style axles, much heavier than the stock '40 Ford

    they also come with self energizing brakes and 5 on 5-1/2" bolt pattern.

    it's all old school stuff, you can do the same thing a lot easier with later parts.

    you could ask why early Olds motor, or why '37 LaSalle transmission,
    answer would be about the same,
    'cause I'm a glutton for punishment
     
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  26. Nothing to say but Wow!
     
  27. Paul
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    today,

    ground all tack welds inside and out flush


    gently bump to shape


    starting at one end work towards the other end tacking between tacks
    repeat until there is about 1/4" between tacks
    then weld those gaps alternating every couple inches
    with the welder on the lowest setting to avoid concentrating too much heat in one spot


    grind all that flush inside and out


    again, gently work it back into shape


    finish welding the folded ends and go over the whole outside with a 3M disc on the little grinder to remove the bulk of the surface rust,
    wash it all down inside and out with more Ospho
    and clamp in place with vice grips to check fit



    there is one more piece of the puzzle ready for bolt up,
    there are a few very minor wrinkles that will be easier to work out once it is bolted together
    instead of chasing it all over the work bench
     
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  28. JeffreyJames
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  29. langy
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    Nice job Paul.
     
  30. general gow
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    super cool. looking forward to watching this move along.
     

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