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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Rich B., Oct 13, 2015.

  1. Neat stuff!!!

    So this urethane is the giving and deforming type?
     
  2. Hnstray
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    Rich B.........Thank you for the explanation of the alternate processes.

    This is a very informative........and inspirational........Great thread.

    Ray
     
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  3. rd martin
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    .havent been on here much rich' just stumbled on your post, really kool rich, nice work!
     
  4. Rich B.
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    31Vickey: After repeated uses there has been no degrading of the
    material. Some very tuff stuff!

    Ray: Thank's much!

    rd martin: Hey Rich good to hear from you! I need to get down to see
    that fancy new shop!
     
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  5. That is pretty sano! Nice work man!
     
  6. Rich B.
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    I located some pics that I can use for a demo on the more common use
    of steel patterns. The pic below shows the 3/16" male, and female
    patterns. The blue blank to be pressed is 16 gauge which I have scribed
    the location of the male die. A good rule of thumb for clearance between
    the male, and female die is 1 1/2 times the thickness of the piece to be
    pressed. (16 gauge .057 = .085 gap in this case) This can be varied to get
    better definition on the finished part. To tight of a gap, and you will shear
    the the piece! I had been trying different gaps with this die, and settled
    on .085.
    a119.JPG
     
  7. Rich B.
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    Here I have taken the female die, and taped it to the bottom of the blank
    aligning the two pieces using the 1/16" drill bits. I than taped the male die
    to the scribed mark on the blank.
    a121.JPG
     
  8. Rich B.
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    Before pressing the pattern I spray the pieces with WD40.
    a122.JPG
     
  9. -Brent-
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    Impressive. I would like to learn more about this. What size is your press?
     
  10. Rich B.
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    The above pic did not show the oil, but I spray top, and bottom before pressing.
    Below pic shows the pressing. I do the pressing in stages usually by lightly
    pressing the first pass front, middle, and back. Increasing pressure with two more
    passes. It seems to give me a more even press, and less chance of the part
    moving around.
    How much pressure? Well with steel a 20 ton press should work.
    a123.JPG
     
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  11. Rich B.
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    After pressing.
    a124.JPG
     
  12. Rich B.
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    Here's the finished piece. It may not show in the pick, but the center of the
    formed piece is slightly wider in the middle. This was caused by the narrow
    width of the sides on the female die. If the die had been as large as the blank
    it would have been o.k. . When ever I can I do make the two the same size
    which means I can line up the pieces without drilling holes. The holes are
    easily welded up, but I try to avoid it.
    001.JPG
     
  13. Rich B.
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    Her's the piece etch primed. Pic did not show up very well.
    a126.JPG
     
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  14. Rich B.
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    Most of the patterns I make are 16 gauge, the 3/16" in the above posts are
    about the max draw that I make without running into problems with
    distortion ,or tearing the steel.

    Here I'll make an actual project. For a long time I had wanted to press the
    classic FORD script, but had troubles making a good pattern. I had some local
    guy's with a computer controlled plasma that made one for me. They had a
    lot of problems cutting 16 gauge because it would warp as it was being cut!
    Water jet may be a better route. After hand finishing them I had a set of dies
    finally.
    This pic shows the female die on top of a piece of 19 gauge CR steel.
    A259.JPG
     
  15. Rich B.
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    Locating the male die for scribing.
    A260.JPG
     
  16. Rich B.
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    Male die taped in position with female die under blank.
    A261.JPG
     
  17. Rich B.
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    Already to press, both female die, and blank are the same size so no need
    for locating holes.
    A262.JPG
     
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  18. Rich B.
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    No need to show pressing, here it is after. Notice the oil all over.
    A263.JPG
     
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  19. Rich B.
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    Here it as after popping it out of die, just reverse dies to inset pattern.
    A265.JPG
     
  20. Rich B.
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    Here I'm using it to make a new glove box door.
    A266.JPG
     
  21. Rich B.
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    I cut a piece of 3/16" plate to match the size of the glove box door, and
    formed the piece around it.
    A267.JPG
     
  22. Rich B.
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    After forming it to fit I removed the plate, and cut the back out to lighten
    it up. I than tacked the formed piece to it.
    027.JPG
     
  23. Rich B.
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    Here's the finished piece.
    A268.JPG
     
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  24. Rich B.
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    A254.JPG A258.JPG Had to make some pieces for my friends.
    A258.JPG
    Wanted to show the simple die that I used to stamp the design on
    the side of the battery box. (sorry for double pics)
    No need for locating holes, die is same size as side of battery box, just
    lined up outer edges after scribing location of male die. Pressed before
    any bends made in box piece. (.063 aluminum) Die is 16 gauge CR.
     
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  25. Rich B.
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    Had to keep one for me! The square shape on the front was made the same way.
    I could have bead rolled it, but there is no distortion this way. All the aluminum
    is .063. I hope this helps some one with a project.
    Rich
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  26. Hnstray
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    I nominate this for "Thread Of The Year" !! :D

    Teriffic "how to"........Bill, thanks ever so much for taking the time to photograph and post these photos and commentary.

    Ray
     
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  27. Rich B.
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    Brent:
    I have a 50 ton press that I have added an air assist to for ease of repeated
    pressings. Actual tonage to press steel patterns I'm really not sure, but I
    run it up to about 6000 PSI. When doing urathane, as much as possible!
    I would want minimum 10-20 ton press. Size matters!

    Scotty: Thank's, it was your idea that sparked the valve covers!

    Ray: Thank's for the kind words.
     
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  28. Jet96
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    : Thumbsup: !!!
     
  29. Nice write-up with pics showing the process. Great tech week submission, thanks for sharing.
     

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