As stated there are a myriad of gear ratios to the T5's. There is a metal tag on the back of the trans case which will give you numbers to cross reference.
Someone had posted a thread on modifying the Camaro tailshaft to move the shifter position forward. I thought I had subscribed to it, but now I can't find it.(Could be because I have 10+ of sub'd threads) anyone else have a link to this thread?
No, I mean he cut up the camaro tailshaft. I am looking for it again, I'm sure I saved it. For most of us, its not that difficult to find an S10 tailshaft, just thought it was an interesting approach, and it is probably more useful for the overseas guys that dont have dead S10's laying around all over the place.
The t5 transmission from the V8 Camaro/Firebird is exactly 3.5" longer than a Muncie or a Saginaw, and uses the same yoke on the driveshaft. It will fit any GM bellhousing from 1955 up, use the the same clutch fork and throw-out bearing, just change to a 26 spline clutch disc. Wilcap lists the same adapter for Saginaw, Muncie M Series, and Borg Warner t5 for GM V6/V8 to 1991. This article appeared in the May 2012 issue of R&C Magazine. It shows a Tremec t500 being adapted to a Ford flathead with a Wilcap adapter. Adapting a Vintage Engine to a Modern Transmission. The swap uses a Tremec t500 but could also apply to a Borg Warner t5 with the standard length GM input shaft as found in the V8 or V6 Camaro/Firebird...
The speedometer gear must be relocated on the Camaro tailshaft to line up with the speedometer connnection on the s10 tailshaft housing. In the tech that I recall, the builder used shim stock to fill the gap between the speedometer gear and the tailshaft and then used epoxy to hold it in place. If I remember correctly, the Camaro tailshaft is available with either a .073:1 or a 0.063:1 overdrive ratio in 5th gear. My t5 has both an s10 tailshaft and s10 tailshaft housing so no jury rigging of the speedometer gear was required and I ended up with a 0.68:1 overdrive ratio for 5th gear.
years ago i had a 66 impala with a 283 and factory 3 speed trans that i broke. got a 4 speed saginaw out of a mid 80's V-6 camaro. it bolted up like it was supposed to be there. point being, why does it have to be a V-8 camaro? the local 4 speed guru that did nothing but rebuild manuel transmissions for 40 years told me that if i got one from a v-6 or v-8 i'd be fine ,but stay away from the 4 cyl trans. i never had a problem. i know we are talking about 5 speeds here, what i'm refering to is the bolt pattern of the tranmission.
There are over 2 dozen gear ratios available in the T5 so yes, it does matter wether or not you use a V8, V6, or Four banger trans. Yes, they all bolt up the same but when you are looking at nearly 140 T5 application with first gear range from 2.95 to 4.03 and a top gear range from .068 to .086, it does make sense to pick the right one for your application
btt..I would like to know this as well...so a Camaro/Firebird T-5 trans will bolt up to a common GM/Chevy standard bellhousing?
Point of order, 'Camaro T5' is a bit misleading. The T5 was offered in the V6 F bods in the 4th gen til 2002. But the 4th Gen 93-02 F body T5s used behind the V6s did not use the GM 'H' trans to bellhousing pattern. Those transmissions used the 'Ford' pattern. So when looking for a Camaro T5 and you wish to use the GM 'H' bell pattern, make sure that the trans came from a 3rd Gen 82-92 F body.
good info, I lucked out & got a xxxx-028 which was mated to a V8 & has a good first gear ratio, now just need to swap the tail shaft from an s-10.
When I bought my S-10 T5 I read so my articles about it my eyes were starting go buggy...From what I could gather was the NW trannies were all basically the same, just different gear ratios and were good to about 400hp...which is way more than my flattie will ever put out.
I have a "donor" S-10 tranny with the 4.03 low gear. I also have 3, 1985 Camaro V/6 trannys, all with the same number and I'm hoping the Camaro trannys have better gear spacing. Any idea on what the Camaro low gear ratio is? Yeah, the tags are on the Camaro trannys but they're all in storage, 15 miles away. Seems like they are xxxxxxx216.
I should be home later tonight rocky - I've got my lists there on that computer. From memory, I think they're 3.50 1st gears & .72 5th, but won't swear to it just now.
FYI on my S10 t-5 install ....I discovered that due to the T-5 being metric..the input shaft is also metric....I measured that input shaft of the T-5 and compared it to the 3 speed I took out....the T-5 was 3 thousand less.....I purchased a pilot bushing for the S-10 ...the od was the same as the 3 speed bushing....however the S-10 was 3 thousand smaller...this is a small difference however it could cause a vibration of input shaft
Rocky, Home now - interestingly enough, the '85 V6 is the only '85 that I don't have ratios for. However, the '83, '84, & '86 V6 Camaros had the 3.50 gearset: 1st - 3.50 2nd - 2.14 3rd - 1.39 4th - 1.00 5th - 0.78 So I think it's a safe assumption you have the 3.50 gearset in the '85. The tag should be 1352-071
please excuse my ignorance, but I have a Camaro t5 trans and I wanted to do the s-10 tail shaft swap etc.. the s-10 tail shaft I found has an electric speedo, can i still run these together, i was not planning on running a speedometer at all...
Hey guys,want to see if you can help me figure out what trans i have?I'm sure it's a s 10 but that all I know.trans is brand new never been installed in a veh.it has elec speedo,says tremec on side and borg warner on top cover and tail shaft.it has 14 spline input.there was no tag on trans has cat # on it which read 13-52-066-033 13-52-191 and 61gbyu031015 starting to gather for my next project and want to run 5spd. Jratz
The -066 is just a casting number and meaningless. The 191, however, decodes to a '89 T-Truck (Tahoe) and has the 3.76 gearset.
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