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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by the metalsurgeon, Jun 29, 2012.

  1. the metalsurgeon
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    Probably in the wrong section and probably will get deleted.Sorry

    So my shrinking disc is totally worn out and need a new one.My finned shrinking disc comes from Sunchaser tools in LA,so called the guy up and he will only sell me a batch of 6 discs for $510 plus postage..Works out to be $85 each pp. Im going to take 2,anyone else interested?

    Send me a pm if so.thanks


    My weekly metalwork blog www.themetalsurgeon.com
     
  2. 49ratfink
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    wtf kind of way is that to run a business? I bought a single disc a few years back after I wore out my first one, wonder what has changed?
     
  3. 49ratfink
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    have you used the ones without the ripples? I don't see how they could work as well. seems like the ripples would generate more heat.
     
  4. I think I would be looking for another source of disks because that is horseshit making someone buy 6 of them at a time.
     

  5. matt73
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    Was going to order one from sunchaser a while back but they were not on the website anymore. I just figured he stopped making them (heard there was a problem with cracking?). Bought one from Wray Schelin on ebay. Works great!!
     
  6. no55mad
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    He was at the LARS
     
  7. the metalsurgeon
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    He was difficult and upset on the phone .Upset people were buying his discs,but not buying his metal shaping classes.

    So he said he wasnt selling them anymore ,then later in the conversation he would sell me 6.

    The deal with the ribbed is that the pocket cool while the rib heats,versus a smooth disc that just heats.

    I wish someone else would make and sell this product!


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  8. the metalsurgeon
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    That my friend is a very fair point! No one else to my knowledge sells this style
     
  9. the metalsurgeon
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    Mine has started cracking,but i have had it 5 years and used it alot. Its a great product ,impression i got ,he thinks he should bean instant millionaire from it.
     
  10. Wow you might want to keep all 6 for yourself because with that type of attitude he won't be in the business of selling any of them for much longer
     
  11. metalman
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    I been using Sunchaser shrinking disks for 20 years or so, on my 3rd one now, yeah they crack after awhile making them scary to use but a great tool anyway.
    Every time I've order another from him he seemed like it was a bother to sell me one, like I was wasting his time. Always wondered about his attitude, sounds like it's getting worst!
     
  12. Dreddybear
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    This is from John Kelly's website, he no longer makes them, but may be useful if this other dude is a pain..

    I no longer make shrinking discs. Please contact Wray Schelin at wesparts@charter.net for a high quality shrinking disc made by the professional metalshaper who first suggested using a flat disc. There are numerous rip-off copycats out there.
     
  13. The37Kid
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    I've read about shrinking disks for years, never saw one in use, are there any vedios of them in use? Bob
     
  14. J. Clear
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    We did a comparison a while back at one of the metalmeets. The Sunchaser one did work a little better. The type that Wray makes has a lip on it. It doesn't flex like the Sunchaser one does. That could be why it didn't work quite as fast. Wray's type is safer and still works well. If the Sunchaser is difficult to get this would be a good alternative.

    J.
     
  15. hotrod40coupe
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    No he wasn't, he only had a sign but he never showed.
     
  16. 49ratfink
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    he does have a chip on his shoulder about the disc. I bought the whole kit with a video the first time, the second one I got at Pleasanton Goodguys a few years back. I asked his helper for one and he had to check with him, he remembered me from when I bought the first one and I have talked to him a couple times since.

    guess he figures the best way to keep people from stealing his idea is not to sell them anymore.
     
  17. matt73
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    Sunchaser guy didnt invent the disk he got from Scott Knight. Not trying to bash Sunchaser. Just hate it when history gets all blury
     
  18. the metalsurgeon
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    Oh, ken,sunchaser guy told me he invented the disc.so do you have any contact info on Scott Knight ?
     
  19. matt73
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    Have an old Street Rodder 88 or 89 maybe that had an article on Scott Knights metal shaping class. I think he was a Cal Metal Shaping guy. Showed his Yoder and stuff. Had a side bar on shrinking disc and it was the serrated one. Was told bye a reputable source that he sold the deal to the Ken. Timothy Bartons books have something about them going back even further 30's maybe. Shootin from the hip a little. Sorry i dont have any info on Scott Knight currently
     
  20. fab32
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    If John Kelly is out of the picture that is sad. He is the real deal (as in no bullshit, just facts) when it comes to the disc.

    Frank
     
  21. the metalsurgeon
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  22. Irrational Metalworks
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    I'm cheap! I make my own out of 14ga stainless. No safety lip, just dimple the center. Still works like a charm 5 years later! Just have to be careful.:D
     
  23. striper
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    I thought I read somewhere about a guy using a stainless saucepan lid. That's cheap! Would it work? I have a few.
     
  24. unkamort
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    Me too! I can't understand how this works
     
  25. You work the dent out with hammer and dolly, as usual. You then run the disc over the area. The high spots heat up from the friction. When they turn blue, you slap on a wet rag to shrink them
     
  26. Juke Joint Johnny
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    Yes, he was there, I talked to him for almost an hour. He is a little frustrated by the whole disc and how to video thing, but it's because he said he invested a lot into it all and the return just wasn't much. In fact he lost money and he said the time it took on the phone took him away from doing metal work, costing him more money in the long run. Also his classes had the potential of just creating competition, so he said he's just going to consentrate on doing what he does best - very nice metal work. I wanted to get one of his metal working DVD's, but he didn't have any more. So if anyone has one for sale PM me, thanks.
     
  27. Jen......
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    been looking for one of these for awhile , didnt know who still had them will subscribe to thread

    Jen
     
  28. pimpin paint
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    Hey,

    A year or two back we had quite a lively post on Sunchaser, Ken, his business pratices etc. here on the HAMB. You may wanna hunt it up from the archeives?

    The serrated disc face does work jus marginally faster, but I wouldn't go outa my way to own another over the smooth faced ones.:D Inna a pinch, a dead 60 grit closed coat disc will work!

    " Humpty Dumpty was pushed "
     
  29. OLDSMAN
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    Years ago I borrowed a Sunchaser from a guy in the Body Shop in the Dealership that I worked. That tool worked super. I wished I would have bought one back then. I had need of one again, talked to the old body man (he since has retired), and he had gotten rid of it. I called sunchaser, and got the same BS, just doing classes, and no longer makes, or sells that tool. I bought a flat one, it works, but not like the sunchaser does. Oh well, hind sight is always better than foresight
     

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