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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by oldskooljc, Dec 30, 2010.

  1. oldskooljc
    Joined: Aug 4, 2009
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    oldskooljc
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    from Fresno CA.

    I have been wating a long time for my buddy to sell me this car. Back in the day when i was a young lad late 1960s this ran at are local track Fresno Drag Ways aka. Rasian City. There were always 5 or 6 gasser style cars there we called the the fast guys. Some injected some blowen some bouth. This was the time when gassers were winding down. But on with the story or car history as i know it. Anybody knows more please chime in. I dont know who originaly built the car when i frist seen it i beleve it had an old olds injected motor. I only seen the car run a few times with the olds motor. It seems there were some farmers that liked being the big fish in the little pond. The move was on to the big block chevy and the hemis. Poor little Stude with the olds faded away. Abought two years later new owner and a big block injected chevy it was back. Abought two years after that the track closed. When Fresno closed some of us made Bakersfeld are home track lol. It show up there a few times and the off to retirment again. A friend of mine that worked for me at my garage told me that a friend of his had just bough a 1957 hawk drag car. I had question him at the time if this was the car the had run at (Rasin City) Fresno Dragways out of Selma CA. small town near us. He said it was. His friend Vall a mopar freak put a 440 & torqflyte and dana 60 but never race it. Ten years later my friend Danny bought the car and turned it in to a bracket car. It has been rotting in his dads field for 10 -12 years. Lucky for me hidden from public view. Some of the things Danny did i would not have but hay it was his car. Here is what i have to work with. Built 440 single 4, msd ingnition, & dist. 727 built and B&M converter 5500 stall dana 60 486 & spool with strange axles. Front end is econoline with brakes it is adjustable i just looked at it a little seem as the shakles are stright out if i adjust these cant a leaver things i dont think it will help. I am thinking shorter springs. Ok Looking for Old owners these guys owned the car a diffrent times but lived and raced out of Selma CA. (Mcarthy) and (Ono owned a radiadior shop) in Selma CA. thanks jim
     

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  2. cool love studes especailly 53-54 the only thing id change would be the hood never cared for the large hawk grille but thats just me scoop is out of year for the car
     
  3. was this orgianally blown from the factory?.....
     
  4. oldskooljc
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    oldskooljc
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    from Fresno CA.

    I know the hood scoop has to go. But i havent been able to find any thing out there that would look good. Anybody got any ideals. Lets see what you got. thanks jim
     

  5. HARD EDDY
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    love that bad boy.
     
  6. a grumpys lump would look pretty cool unlimted products (if they are still around ) has/had them
     
  7. BOBBYA312
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    Always liked the 53-4 nose.Fits right on.Nice place to start,make it a psuedo B/ville ride.
     
  8. oldskooljc
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    oldskooljc
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    from Fresno CA.

    Thanks guys but what the hell is a grumpys lump. Any pictures. Just put some air in the tires loaded on the trailer and got it home. Havent done anything but take the pictures and post them. Ive got the rear wheels an slicks in the deal. But think i am going with early tourk thrust. What do you think pie crust or wrinkle wall. thanks jim
     
  9. 5w32
    Joined: Jan 17, 2006
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    here is my fiberglass 2 lane blacktop scoop almost "grumpy lump"
     

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  10. this isnt my pic but the car has the grumpy's lump on it
     

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  11. oldskooljc
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    oldskooljc
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    from Fresno CA.

    thanks guys keep it coming jim
     
  12. mart3406
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    from Canada

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    How about a hood scoop from a late-50's
    through mid-to-late-60's Ford "Super-Duty"
    series truck? A lot of guys used these scoops
    'back in the day' - including Dave Koffel on
    his Studebaker Lark "Flintstone Flyer"
    gasser, to name just one. I'm not sure
    how much height you need for the scoop,
    but Studes have low hoodlines and if the
    approximately 3-inch tall Ford Super-Duty
    scoop is not tall enough in stock form to
    clear whatever you're running underneath
    it, you could raise it up as much as necessary
    by mounting it on a raised base. To show
    what I mean, here's a few pics taken during
    construction, of the homemade steel base I
    helped a buddy build to raise the '63 Ford
    SD truck scoop he used on his OT turbo-Pinto.
    He made his own air cleaner assembly that
    attached to the mouth of the turbo via a
    90-degree curved rubber elbow. Due to the
    height of the turbo, the 5 inch tall K&N filter
    element he used, ended up going through
    the hood and sitting almost entirely above
    the stock hood line. That necessitated
    building a base - both to raise the scoop
    and to enclose the filter element. The base
    the scoop sits on was hand-formed from a
    3 1/4 inch-wide strip of sheet steel - and the
    curved front section (ya' gotta' have some
    semblance of 'aerodynamics' don'tcha'
    know!:D) was made from a pair of 'support
    brackets' salvaged from an old household
    furnace oil tank! :)

    Mart3406
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  13. oldskooljc
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    from Fresno CA.

    Hay i like that. How hard are they to find. the clearance thing is no problem carb sets abought 6" below hood and there is an adaptor to seal to bottem of hood.


    Next Question how high do we raise the front end.

    Yes we are just bench building at the moment. I know some of you guys got it rougher than we do but its rained almost evey day for two months. Well at least 40 days 40 nights. Or seems like it. Wating for it to dry enough to unload and get started.
     
  14. mart3406
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    mart3406
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    from Canada

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    The scoops aren't too hard to find. Ford used
    them on their F-700 and bigger, gas engined
    "Super Duty" series trucks from 1958
    through to about 1967 or '68 The best place to
    look is a heavy truck or contruction equipment
    boneyard that still has some older stuff sitting
    in the back rows. My buddy paid 20 bucks for
    his scoop, off of a junked '63 Ford F900 dump
    truck in a wreckers. Avoid E-Gay though.
    These scoops show up there all the time, but
    the vendors there, usually ask outrageous
    prices for them. The reason is, that Pontiac also
    bought this same hood scoop - minus the grill
    insert - from Ford, to use on their '62 and '63
    421 Super Duty factory race cars - and every
    E-Gay vendor that has one of these scoops for
    sale - despite the scoop still having the
    dead-giveaway 'Ford truck scoop' grill insert
    still intact, of course lists his scoop as being a
    "super-rare, genuine Pontiac 'factory race
    car' piece
    "! The going rate seems to be
    about 100 to 150 dollars on E-Gay, or or 20 to
    25 dollars in a truck or construction equipment
    boneyard. Take your pick! :D

    Mart3406
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  15. Ron
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  16. mart3406
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    mart3406
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    from Canada

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    Cool car, but the front end is way too high
    for my tastes...even for a "gasser". Love
    the engine 'set-back' and the Stude body
    lines though.

    Mart3406
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  17. oldskooljc
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    oldskooljc
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    from Fresno CA.

    Thanks for the scoop info. Yes thats one bad stude but front is to high for me also. Maybe abought 1/2 that. Rear wheels i am thinking 8.5 wheels with 31x11.5 or 12.0
     
  18. Lucky3
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  19. oldskooljc
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    oldskooljc
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    from Fresno CA.

    Sounds like a match race. Bakersfeld?
     
  20. oldskooljc
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    oldskooljc
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    from Fresno CA.

    up one for viewing ttt
     
  21. It is a cool car and I agree that the scoop leaves a little to be desired.

    here are a couple of poor shots of the scoop for my '53. I am making it from the front of another '53/54 hood turned around backward. It no doubt isn't the best looking scoop in existance but it is what it is.

    Note please excuse the mess I like working in clutter it makes my day challenging.
     

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  22. Check out this one for stance. I scanned this pick from a dook bated 1966.The scoop on this one looks like a super duty or early t-bird to me.
     

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  23. That was a bad ass car! love it. Looks like a 55-57 Thunderbird scoop on this one.
     
  24. tattedfordguy
    Joined: Sep 13, 2006
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    I have a 64 dtudabaker daytona i was thinking about doing a gasser to...
     
  25. Bonneville Avanti Dan
    Joined: Jan 21, 2011
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    Bonneville Avanti Dan
    Member
    from California

    Nice find. I drag raced a 59 Hawk at Lions, Irwindale and OCIR in the day. Was my first car. I'm finishing up my Bucket List Bonneville project this year and will start on my Bucket list Studebaker Gasser this winter. I will be building this 53 2R5 truck.
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    I'll tow it with this cool Studebaker:
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    Currently it is doing duty towing my current ride:
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    I'll see you at the March Meet at Famosa.
    Dan
     
  26. HotRod60F100
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    Good luck on your "Rude Stude" man! :)
     
  27. oldskooljc
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    oldskooljc
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    from Fresno CA.

    Up for Ron to look at jim

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