Just got back from 8 days in the LA area, and wondered where it is you folks actually drive your cars. Now obviuosly a week is not enough time to explore all of the by ways and back roads, but from what I saw the freeways are chock a block nearly any time of the day and night, the surface streets are a nose to tail circus parade of bleached blonds in Lexus SUVs, on cell phones or texting. We took a trip Friday AM from LAX to Dana Point on the Coast Highway, through Seal Beach Huntington, Newport, etc. Nice road but probably 40 mph max. Then we took 74 over to Elsinore and into Palm Desser where we stayed. Nice road but again most of the traffic was white knuckled folks afraid they might fall off the road. We spent 3 opportunities in LA and Anaheim, and according to the Navigator, average speed on the freeway was 29 MPH this after rush hour. Yep surrounded by Bimmers, and Jags, and Bently Contenentals, and even a couple of Maseratis, all slogging along at 29 MPH, got up to 45 a vouple times in the HOV lanes. Only guys who were moving were the guys o bikes lane splitting. Now the dessert and mountain roads were fun but it took nearly 2 hours to get out of town. Did get a chance to do some 4 wheeling in the rented Jeep out near Joshua tree, (Red Canyon Trail) and in JT Pinkham/ thermal Canyon, which was fun especially after the sun went down. Just wondering where all the freedom of the road stuff comes in. I can be on no traffic country 2 lane in about 10 minutes from the end of my drive way, granted only from May to November. If I had to deal with that kind of congestion on a daily basis, no matter how nice the weather and how pretty the girls, I be heading elswhere in a hurry. No disrespect but,whats the sense of building Hot Rods to do 30???