The Jalopy Journal
Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Stooge, Mar 15, 2018.
Any updates on Buick???
The damn daily driver has gotten a little fussy and has been taking my time and money lately, but thanks to Steel A Rod and Paul, I have a all of the internals and some spares for the transmission to replace the broken, chipped, missing gears and small parts I was missing, and with the exception of a few other things, I basically have a complete car. New gallon of high build primer is on the way, and I already picked up a new can of rage gold body filler so I guess im starting bodywork pretty soon, and will prime the inside to stop the new floor from flashing over along with most of the outer body. I wanted to leave the front fenders in place while I body work those so it'd be easier to get it right, and because they are massive and wont fit on my work stands that well for sanding. front and rear fenders shouldn't need much, and I have a few little bits to finish up on the door seams before priming those, and I have some of the rear trunk lip on the body to repair, I just haven't gotten to it yet. should pick up soon since its supposed to start warming up a bit. shop has heat, but running any air sanders with the doors closed makes a pretty big mess.
Have you tried box fans and whole house air filters?
its not much of an update, but after many hours or cleaning up the bare metal trying to get the pitting, rust, old paint cleaned up, some dents knocked out, fixing some old repairs from a previous owner in the front fender, it got a skim coat of filler in a few spots and a some high build primer on the passenger side. Good to see it looking a little more whole for the first time, but it was sort of an experiment to see what I could get away with in regards to some of the blemished/ pitted sheet metal. few people suggested just covering it all in filler, but I wasn't too keen on that since I would drive myself crazy with sanding it all down and getting it straight, and for the most part, wasn't really necessary. The U-Pol high build covered most of it, with the exception of a few areas where the body trim was that was a little heavier pitted, but overall, im pretty pleased with it.
was mostly experimenting and just wanted to do the door and fenders, but did the cowl and door jambs as well. still a lot of body work to do, but atleast I have a better idea of the course to go now. next will be the roof, and rear qtrs. before spinning it around for the driver side, (shop is full right now and space is at a premium so I have to work with that for the time being)
A few more days of grinding, sanding and cleaning so i could prime the hood, rear quarters, cowl, etc. Scarily almost starting to look like a real car
that's a long hood,lota work in that one.
A little bit of an update, running boards are "done", still going to add a lip around the front and back fender facing sides. they're going to be covered in ribbed rubber mat and I may get some trim pieces made up from McMillan for the out facing side of them but im not sure yet. Some rectangular tubing and some right angle brackets I had to act as frame brackets, hogged out to make access slots to bolt to the underside of the steps, and some weldnuts and more rectangular tubing welded to the underside
(I screwed up and welded one of them backwards, this is before I fixed it)
the frame mounting holes and the step mounting holes are slotted for final adjustment as the body and fenders are lined up, no rubber body mounts in yet, etc.
Just tacked in for the time being
Also I've been trying to come up with a rough idea of how I will have the throttle linkage set up for the 4 single barrel carburetors. the choke was easy enough, and just utilized the stock cable stops and found a cheap choke cable long enough to reach, although I will get a find a better fitting one for the end product. cobbled a sort of bell crank out of sheet metal, and made a tab to fold over the carburetor throttle linkage to secure it as well as act as an anti rotation device, and coupled that with some bits I bought from Mcmaster carr that I thought would be useful. I have a longer stick of all thread but I just wanted to test 1 of the carbs so that's all I set it up for. This is just a rough 1st try at the throttle bracket to see if it works, so hopefully the real ones are a little nicer looking. I also want to keep the carburetors stock as far as the bracketry on them goes, so if the need to replace one comes up, the carburetor itself can be swapped in without having to modify, cut, drill, etc and it all comes from the pieces I made.
I haven't made anything for a return spring yet, but I might try and work that into the carb mounting flanges on the intake it self.
fortunately, the rod seems to stay on a pretty level plane when pulled back, and couple with the heim joints, im hoping it doesn't bind up but i'll have to try it out with all 4 to be sure
And while I was spraying primer yesterday, I sanded down the front and backside of the dash to get rid the surface rust, and gave that a few coats of primer. I thought about doing hydrograph and make it wood grain like the dash originally would have had, but I think im just going to do it black
Beautiful workmanship as usual!! The dash....does it unbolt from the cowl? I wuz thinking they are spot welded in....hmmmm
Looking good. Those are great cars. Glad you are moving forward.
Fantastic looking project. God Bless you for not only saving this gorgeous slice of GM history, but breathing loads of cool into her. The straight 8 with that intake is incredible. Hopefully runs as good as it looks.
Dad was a Buick man and would have appreciated this.
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Thanks Ray, its a great motivator to start seeing this look like a real car again even if its miles away from being close to on the road. I had read that the dash in atleast the '37 and '38 cars unbolted by way of a bunch of small screws around the cowl, so i gathered some screwdrivers and nutdrivers out to tackle taking it out, to find out it was just strung up in place with bailing wire. Before i go too much further with bodyworking the dash, i need to figure out where im going to mount the choke cable, and a sort of hidden starter button. Doesnt really make sense to try and cobble together the stock starter pedal vacuum switch amd i have heard of enough issues with people grinding up their ring gear with the starter accidentally engaging while driving. Im still going to use the column key and switch but it will mostly act as an interrupter or to power the coil, and will just mount a small momentary switch under the dash to engage the starter. I also wouldnt hate mounting a small tach somewhere but i might put it down floor or something to keep it from looking out of place.....of course its only a 2speed trans so its probably not necessary aside from tuning.
Thanks! After months of back problems, some physical therapy and a cortisone shot, its a nice feeling to be back puttering around and trying to chip away at stuff
Thanks, i appreciate the sentiment! After having looked for a prewar gm coupe for awhile and having planned on lowering, chopped, etc, then stumbling onto this and re-evaluating where i wanted to go with it, how i wanted it to look, trying to keep all of the parts pre-1950, its just turning into sonething alot cooler to me. Plus it seems like almost every other one i see is either a perfect restoration or a cheeseball streetrod, im looking forward to just having a cool, simple hot rod...while also being a gigantic, beautiful coupe!
Stooge, I agree with your expressed goals.......here is my take on the era. I do have the dog dishes for this and usually run them. I know some people think red wheels are a cliche’, but I guess I don’t........I see them as “traditional’.....
I am really a fan of the GM coupes of this era and particularly favor the Buick and Chevrolet versions. I recently satisfied that Chevy Coupe ‘itch’ and acquired a ‘37.....a long time favorite.........
Keep up the great work you are doing. It is really impressive!
Thanks Ray, I really appreciate the kind words. There may not be much of a budget sometimes, and some of the work may not be perfect, but what I've always tried to do with the cars I've worked on, is be able to say that I did the best job I could at that point in time and tried my hardest to do it right.
Got any pictures of your new Chevy? Your '38 is a beauty, and pretty close to what im shooting for. Gloss black single stage body, black steel wheels, a small chrome cap, black wall tires, and leaning towards no fog lights. A buddy owns a finishing shop and does paint and powder coating has mentioned having the intake and some other under hood pieces done in copper powder coat but im thinking that may be a little obnoxious. He also actually owns the '37 Chevy that was the first prewar car I worked on, and what sparked me wanting a prewar coupe, though his is a panel truck.
Stooge, Thank you for asking......I will post a pic or two but do not want to hijack the thread.
I found a nice older ‘body off’ restoration that was first rate when done and has been regularly driven, but nicely maintained. The PO swapped in a ‘53 235 (PG engine with full pressure lube system). I think it is a great foundation for conversion to a mild hot rod and that is what I am doing with it.
First, I removed the spotlight and fog lights. Also getting rid of the tail light mounted license bracket. Also the huge old OE radio. I have replaced the worn out wiper transmissions with new units from I & I Reproductions and they are beautifully made. Added a Newport Engineering electric wiper motor. Next up is installing new rear springs and an 8.8 Ranger axle with 3.55 and limited slip. Pulling the old 3 speed and installing an S-10 T 5 trans for the time being.
Later this year I intend to install a warmed over 250 Chevy Six and probably an automatic trans. May keep the stick, we’ll see how I like it by then. I will post a pic of ‘as found’ and another pic which serves as ‘inspiration’ for the look I want.
Keep us updated on your Buick progress. You have really transformed that car with a lot of hard work and talent!
Spent the other morning freeing up a few of the W-1 carbs that stuck, and cut out some quick and rough throttle brackets to try out the possible linkage. With the exception of some changes im going to make with the hardware, finding a few more carburetor cores and figuring out some sort of bell crank to hook to a pedal, but for probably under $30 with the choke and throttle so far, it should work pretty well. Still have to make up some spring returns and brackets and how i'll route the fuel lines, then ill breal it down for final welding. Also need to find a front engine mounting plate, or modify the '47 engine plate to fit the frame, so i can eventually start the header with the engine in place.
Not sure how to link a video of the choke and throttle linkage moving, (there should be more travel but the stops on the carbs arent all adjusted the same) but i have a quick video on my instagram https://www.instagram.com/p/BzlSoTilMnY/?igshid=7f5igswg9azi
Hey Stooge, what a fine carb setup! fun to watch your thread!
Thanks Carsten, i appreciate it and thanks for checking in on it! Not sure how far i'll go into building the engine since it came out of a running car and im on a budget, but getting it cleaned up, replace whats worn and a cam regrind should be doable. Of course when there are people like Don Montgomery, who unfortunately passed away earlier this year, who were setting records with Buick straight 8's back in the 40s and 50s, it doesnt do alot to encourage keeping it simple
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