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Projects Simca Marmon Flathead V8 from 1987!

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by edwardlloyd, Oct 1, 2019.

  1. edwardlloyd
    Joined: Aug 2, 2003
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    It has a gigantic two piece truck pan. The German ones have lovely aluminium pans you can use. I've got a 59A-B steel pan to use.
    I still don't know whether it's easy to convert the oil pump pickup. I'll get to that later.
    Yes it's great to find out you can use a Zephyr carb on the French aluminium manifold. That'll look crazy cool all in naked alu.

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  2. birdman1
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    hard to believe grown men can get so excited over a flathead!!! I had my fill of them in my 1953 Ford! have fun!
     
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  3. studebakerjoe
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    I was wondering what you'll be doing with that distributor. Any thoughts on selling it?
     
  4. big duece
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    Its probably 24v system
     
  5. studebakerjoe
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    Big duece, I would think it might be. I want to put together a flathead Ford powered flatfender Jeep and would like a waterproofed ignition system for it.
     
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  6. edwardlloyd
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    Yes. It'll be available. One of the spark plugs is damaged but I could get another one.

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  7. chrisp
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    I don't want to hijack the thread but I have a 3.9 cargo engine and a 4.2 marmon crank do you think it's worth the trouble?
     
  8. BJR
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    "I don't want to hijack the thread but"..... I am going to do it anyway. :eek: Start a new thread with a good title and you will get many more answers to your question. Much better then posting on an existing thread.:D
     
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  9. Bruce Lancaster
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    The French also had regular 59A type aluminum pans. Source not known by me...According to general reading here and there there were 2 different army truck types relating to the recent discovery of 1980-'s flatheads, but of course there were also many real Ford trucks built there (SAF, not post-Ford military) using normal European flatheads.
    I suspect these used 1942 type 239's carried over from WWII until Ford sold out of the French market...dunno for sure.
     
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  10. Stephen Barrett
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    Nice! Just got my first Hot Rod 2 weeks ago. Has a 1946 Flathead. Super excited about it. Good luck with yours.
     
  11. edwardlloyd
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    A question about water pumps. Obviously these gigantic water pumps are going to have to go. I read somewhere that only truck pumps fit. Is this true or can I fit normal 59A-B passenger pumps. 20191007_084515.jpeg

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  12. big duece
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    The trunk pumps from Drake are what I used. They were used a lot because of the low mounting pad, Mercs where high mounting pad, and the cars didn't have the pad?? The French block is mainly a 8ba block, with a 59a bellhousing . So, use 8ba style pumps. The main reason to use 8ba pumps, the pulleys stick out front to clear the distributor. Get a 8ba crank pulley too. 0711rc_05_z-flathead_water_pump-.jpg
     
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  13. big duece
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    You can also use that timing cover, it has a cool thrust button for the end of the camshaft. I made a bushing that makes up the difference when installing a stock or aftermarket distributor. thumbnail (60).jpg
     
  14. FlatJan
    Joined: Dec 13, 2013
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    FlatJan

    i used 8BA truck pumps too. Originally they are staggered. After conversion no more, what i found to be good. You can use them with the original pulley when using a wide belt. No other crank needed. Yours should be 4"

    correct, but usually those don´t have the 4" crank as they are from early trucks (Cargo)
     

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