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Technical Removing Tie Rod End

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by dmdeaton, Jan 22, 2019.

  1. dmdeaton
    Joined: Nov 25, 2017
    Posts: 394


    What is the best way to remove a tie rod end on a new install without cutting up the rubber boot? I need to bend my steering arms to run my tie rod over the bones. I just installed a month ago and keep looking at it, hanging too low. I have pickle forks, but this would cut up the boot. loosen the nut and air hammer it from that end?
  2. saltflats
    Joined: Aug 14, 2007
    Posts: 9,996

    from Missouri

    I use a big hammer by sticking the steering arm on the side of the taper hole. If that makes sense.
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  3. lake_harley
    Joined: Jun 4, 2017
    Posts: 923


    It doesn't always work, but I have had good luck removing the nut, turning it over and screwing it on so the flat (not the castellated end) is even with the end of the stud to protect the threads. While supporting the steering arm, a couple firm licks with a hammer generally get them loose.

    Also, with the nut loosened, a couple wacks on the side of the arm's tapered end while holding a heavy hammer against the other side will sometimes "wake" up the joint. That might be what saltflats was saying?

  4. Phil P
    Joined: Jan 1, 2018
    Posts: 267

    Phil P

    Take off the nut and turn it upside down and screw it on till its flush and try with a hammer but this doesn't always work. Sometimes your stuck with a new tie rod end. Phil
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  5. They make pullers for this, I’m not a fan of hitting cast iron with a hammer. Hitting the end is a good way to ensure you ruin threads even with the nut.

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  6. dirty old man
    Joined: Feb 2, 2008
    Posts: 8,517

    dirty old man

    You're correct about the pickle fork ruining the boot. I've always had good luck using 2 hammers hold a BIG one against one side of the arm and strike the other side sharply with about a 1# hammer.

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  7. chargin03
    Joined: Jan 8, 2013
    Posts: 423


    Harbor Freight item 99849 sold as ball joint tool but works for tie rods also.
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  8. jimgoetz
    Joined: Sep 6, 2013
    Posts: 372


    I have a pickle fork for my air hammer and I don't know why but it only takes about 3 seconds and for some reason usually doesn't tear up the rubber.
  9. alchemy
    Joined: Sep 27, 2002
    Posts: 15,370


    Pretty sure you can buy a new rubber at the parts store.

    But, I have done as mentioned above: Place a maul on one side of the eye of the arm, then whack the other side of the eye with a big hammer. It did make the rod end pop out. Granted, these were not decades-old rusty rod ends.
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  10. dmdeaton
    Joined: Nov 25, 2017
    Posts: 394


    New ends are cheap, almost worth snagging 2 before I start.
    Anyone know the part number for Ford 5/8 thread ends?
  11. Fordors
    Joined: Sep 22, 2016
    Posts: 2,680


    I removed ball joints on my 160,000 mile Tahoe DD by using two relatively heavy ball pein hammers. Loosen the tie rod end nut so it will still support the end and strike the sides on the spindle eye smartly with the hammers, the stud will pop loose. I’ve used this for years, always worked for me.
    Obviously, if you have paint it may be damaged, and if chrome then maybe use brass hammers.
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  12. Happydaze
    Joined: Aug 21, 2009
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  13. 4wd1936
    Joined: Mar 16, 2009
    Posts: 818

    from NY

    Ball joint puller works very well with a chunk of aluminum stock between the tie rod end and the puller bolt. Doesn't damage a thing.
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  14. squirrel
    Joined: Sep 23, 2004
    Posts: 45,821


    I learned the two-hammer method when I worked at the junkyard as a kid, it still works fine.
  15. B Ramsey
    Joined: Mar 29, 2009
    Posts: 623

    B Ramsey

    replacement boots as suggested above, dont last more than a couple months before rotting and disintegrating.
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  16. dmdeaton
    Joined: Nov 25, 2017
    Posts: 394


    I am going to try this, but I ordered a puller off Amazon also.
    So just smack the sides of the steering arm, like you are trying to peen the sides in on the taper? I don't know if I am coordinated enough to do that. :)
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  17. oldolds
    Joined: Oct 18, 2010
    Posts: 2,955


    Hit the side of the steering arm like you are trying to close the hole up. It sometimes helps if you can put a little pressure on the rod end.
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  18. Modify as necessary to fit your specific tie rod end and steering arm. I don't ever use a pickle fork anymore, even when I don't care about destroying the boot.

  19. boring-hop-yard
    Joined: Feb 24, 2008
    Posts: 74


    Long ago I was taught the two hammer method but a little different than described earlier.
    I use two ballpeens one larger than the other. I strike the joint with both hammers at the same time. Don't kill it, just a firm smack, over and over until it lets lose.
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  20. nugget32
    Joined: Aug 21, 2011
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    Buy good quality replacement boots

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  21. Terrible80
    Joined: Oct 1, 2010
    Posts: 751


    A little tension on the tierod and strike the side of the tapered eye with a hammer, don't need brute force, the vibration on the taper shakes it loose.

    a little tension on the
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  22. 1946caddy
    Joined: Dec 18, 2013
    Posts: 1,653

    from washington

    You don't swing both hammers at the same time, You use one hammer on the back side of the tapered end like a dolly when doing body work and sharply hit the opposite side with the other hammer.
    Don't do this with only one hammer...the second one absorbs or reflects the energy and focuses it just around the taper.
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  23. Boneyard51
    Joined: Dec 10, 2017
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    A long time ago I bought a “ pitman arm “ puller off the Mac truck. I’ve used it on tie rod ends with success. It’s a very heavy duty puller with two tie bolts through it to keep the puller arms from from slipping off. Has never failed me. Would go out in the shop and take a pic, but it’s cold and rainy here today!

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  24. This is what I did when I was doing front ends for a living. Pull down on the tie rod, give it a whack and 99% of the time it came loose. Keep the nut a few threads on the tie rod for safety. I still have the #3 BFH I've used for years.
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  25. Boneyard51
    Joined: Dec 10, 2017
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    Let me add a little to that method that will almost guarantee success with one strike. You need to support the arm holding the tie rod with a jack stand or something very solid, as close to the tie rod end as possible. Jack the car up and let it down on the arm so that it is solid, not all the weight of the car but some. Then hit sharply with a hammer no less the four pounds. Hammers come in sizes, just like wrenches, for a reason. Just my .02.
    Didn’t mean to hijack your post ,Bob.

    Last edited: Jan 22, 2019
  26. Rich S.
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    Rich S.

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  27. Hollywood-East
    Joined: Mar 13, 2008
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    Classic.... The first reply was all that was needed...BFH one blow, Like it's an X ol' lady... it'll be three page's by the weekend
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  28. Rich S.
    Joined: Jul 22, 2016
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    Rich S.


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  30. Black_Sheep
    Joined: May 22, 2010
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    216C5EE3-4388-4F6F-9033-16965A81FC2B.jpeg Easy and no damaged parts
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