hello, I just received my set of reds headers and downpipes for my shoebox. I have to say, it seems like the design and quality is pretty sub par. I come from the world of small and big block OHV ford and Chevys and have experienced headers from many different manufacturers. A couple things that seems a little off are #1, although TIG welded, it seems that the welds were don't as quickly and haphazardly as possible. The beads aren't very consistent and the mounting flanges where all the stress are, are internally welded on the very ends of the pipe with 2 tiny tacks on the outside. This is obviously going to be a failure point, so I'm going to full weld the outside prior to installing. Secondly, the center pipe by the steering box it almost completely pinched off. I know that this is a tight area, but the point of headers is for increased flow. With such a restrictive exhaust design in the heads, I'd like to see a little more effort for free flow instead of the simple "make it fit" mojo. It is possible to fit a better bend in there. Third, the downpipes that reds sell hang the exhaust under the factory cross member, rather than through the factory hole in the crossmember. I know that some people don't want to drill the crossmember for the driver's side pipe, but the loss of ground clearance seems dumb when there's already a hole in one side. Also, they bend one side to need an offset (read: bent) muffler, while the other side doesn't. It just doesn't seem logical to me. When you have the chance to fabricate an exhaust system from scratch, it gives you the one chance to do it right, not simply, good enough. Lastly, they ship their headers raw. Obviously requiring some coating to preserve the pipe. Well, I appreciate the fancy logo that they welded to the pipe that says "reds headers", but how do they suppose you coat under it so it doesn't rust? Basically, I have to cut the logos off to paint the pipes, so I'm surely not going to put them back on. It seems as though a quick little tab welded to the back of the logos and hose clamp thrown in the package would have solved this problem? I guess I just feel like without much, if any added cost, just a little added thought, these headers could have been a home run when they only wanted a walk. Anyone else feel this way?