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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by HOTRODPRIMER, Mar 2, 2021.

  1. I just ordered a new Duralast aluminum water pump for my old sedan and I noticed there is no mention of a gasket, It's been a very long time since I have replaced a water pump and I am not sure if there will be one in the box when it arrives, I could call Summit and wait for another half hour to be connected to the guy that has all the answers but I'll ask you guys, if it doesn't come with a gasket is it advisable just to use Permatex ultra RTV multi purpose sealer instead of a gasket or would it be best to use a gasket designed for the water pump and the Permatex? HRP
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  2. 40FORDPU
    Joined: Mar 15, 2009
    Posts: 3,010

    from Yelm, Wa
    1. Northwest HAMBers

    Yes, should come with the gasket.
    I use Permatex #2 with the gasket.
    People will chime in with their favorite sealers I'm sure..kind of like brands of spark plugs or oil.
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  3. lake_harley
    Joined: Jun 4, 2017
    Posts: 1,301


    If it doesn't come with gaskets, I personally would still use some. Do you eat Cheerios? Their boxes make perfectly fine gaskets.....just trim to fit. :D

  4. jimmy six
    Joined: Mar 21, 2006
    Posts: 8,403

    jimmy six

    You don’t say for what but I bought a small package of different gasket material from O’Reilly’s, Auto Zone, Trace Amigos de la Pep, etc and used a small ball peen hammer to trace the outline and holes then cut with scissors. I have set of hole punches too. For the 3/8” holes and bolts I use the 5/16” hole punch so it will hold the gasket with the threads on the bolt. I too like Permatex #2 on all water gaskets and threaded fittings.
    PS: Cheerios boxes have been my go to when I don’t have gasket material which is better.

  5. hotrodjack33
    Joined: Aug 19, 2019
    Posts: 1,998


    C'mon Danny, you already know the answer:D Even a homemade gasket will be better than no gasket at all;)
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  6. Hay, it could come with O-Rings being it's Aluminum.
  7. Slopok
    Joined: Jan 30, 2012
    Posts: 2,616


    I think I would be concerned about the quality of the water pump! o_O
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  8. Gearhead Graphics
    Joined: Oct 4, 2008
    Posts: 3,766

    Gearhead Graphics
    from Denver Co

    I mean the gasket only holds the water in. No real need for one
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  9. I can only hope the new Duralast water pump lives as well as the one on the car,but as we all know quality has slipped on darn near everything. HRP
  10. 1oldtimer
    Joined: Aug 21, 2003
    Posts: 7,845


    I use Lucky Charms or Frankenberry, they seem to work better.........for me and the car :).
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  11. rustydusty
    Joined: Apr 19, 2010
    Posts: 1,838


    I personally prefer a "Wheaties" box. (Breakfast of champions!)
  12. dana barlow
    Joined: May 30, 2006
    Posts: 4,232

    dana barlow
    from Miami Fla.
    1. Y-blocks

    I used phone book covers years back,they were better paper then Tony The Tiger box,but Tony box works too. Is the 3 in+ thick phone book showing my age? Miami had thick books.
  13. oldiron 440
    Joined: Dec 12, 2018
    Posts: 1,865

    oldiron 440

    Fruit Loop box's work the best!:p
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  14. hotrodjack33
    Joined: Aug 19, 2019
    Posts: 1,998


    I've found that the Frosted Flakes box works GRRRRREAT:p
  15. BuckeyeBuicks
    Joined: Jan 4, 2010
    Posts: 2,239

    from ohio

    From what I went through a while back with some of the Duralast products you may need a zipper instead of a gasket as it may take at least two or three until you get one that works, doesn't leak or has all the parts with it.:eek:
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  16. corncobcoupe
    Joined: May 26, 2001
    Posts: 5,381

    Staff Member

    If your Duralast comes without a Dura gasket Dura outta luck.
  17. gbones32coupe
    Joined: Jan 1, 2007
    Posts: 725


    Ohhh shit you had me Rollin hahahahahahabah
    Sent from my LM-Q720 using The H.A.M.B. mobile app
  18. seb fontana
    Joined: Sep 1, 2005
    Posts: 6,833

    seb fontana
    from ct

    Aluminum lawnmower engines don't use side cover gaskets anymore, thin bead of RTV and slam together. Use perm #1, that will stick it!
  19. The thread title said humor me not make me roll in the floor laughing! :D HRP
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  20. squirrel
    Joined: Sep 23, 2004
    Posts: 47,832


    Most water pumps come with a gasket...especially if it's a pump that uses a normal paper gasket.

    Only about half the time, is the gasket destroyed during shipping.

    If you need, you can get one from a local parts store, or make one from a Cheerios box and some scissors.

    Aviation or #2 Permatex, not RTV.
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  21. Budget36
    Joined: Nov 29, 2014
    Posts: 5,712


    I’ve bought some pumps that the gaskets are sold separately, heck, used to be when you bought a thermostat there would be a gasket in the box, the last two I’ve bought I had to buy them separately.
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  22. TCATTC
    Joined: Oct 12, 2019
    Posts: 242


    Don't believe I've ever used a water pump that didn't come with gaskets. If by chance it doesn't, you can pick some up at one of the chain stores for a couple bucks.
  23. dana barlow
    Joined: May 30, 2006
    Posts: 4,232

    dana barlow
    from Miami Fla.
    1. Y-blocks

    So what's for lunch,we now know what every one eats in the morn! LOL
  24. I've been there. HRP
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  25. jetnow1
    Joined: Jan 30, 2008
    Posts: 1,737

    from CT
    1. A-D Truckers

    just got one from ac/delco through Amazon. no gaskets, or plugs for bypass though pic plainly shows it.
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  26. squirrel
    Joined: Sep 23, 2004
    Posts: 47,832


    Maybe that's why we usually buy water pumps locally, so we can peek in the box and see what we're getting. And give them the core back, after the new one is in and working and not leaking.

    although I can understand that this is getting harder to do.
  27. alanp561
    Joined: Oct 1, 2017
    Posts: 1,498


    Couldn't use the phone book cover where I lived when I was a kid. It only had 4 pages including the front and back cover. Of course, not everybody in beautiful downtown Mustang, OK ( population 500 or less ) had a phone or we might have had to have 5 pages. Wheaties box and Permatex 2 worked for me.
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  28. Jim, I normally do buy what I need at the local NAPA but I was ordering some other parts that I cant get at the local parts house, thus I ordered online.

    Also, I consider your advise something that I need to follow, can you expand on the aviation or #2 Permatex? HRP
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  29. Gabby
    Joined: Apr 14, 2007
    Posts: 261


    27 post and no one has asked if a cheerios box for a gasket is traditional. Must be a slow day.
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  30. squirrel
    Joined: Sep 23, 2004
    Posts: 47,832


    only if you get the right box


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