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POS or NEG Battery Disconnect switch

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by The37Kid, Mar 28, 2013.

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  1. Positive Side

    131 vote(s)
    52.6%
  2. Negative Side

    118 vote(s)
    47.4%
  1. The37Kid
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  2. Don's Hot Rods
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    Yep, it depends on your philosophy of what the switch should do. If you just want it to shut off the current flow, then either way works. I like to put it on the positive cable, very close to the battery, because it kills any current flow right there and doesn't let it go any further. But that is just my way of thinking.

    Don
     
  3. tfeverfred
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    I always thought they were supposed to go on the POS. That would kill power to everything.
     
  4. richie rebel
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  5. Bad Eye Bill
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    Negative side at the battery does exactly the same thing.

    You have two posts on the battery, a cable goes to each one, break either cable, you have no current flow, it makes no difference.
     
  6. Ebbsspeed
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    Yep, no difference at all.



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  7. fastcar1953
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  8. ground side...but the other post is better than none.
     
  9. Oppy
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    So I did negative, not sure why. Had it like that for years, no problems. I did hide the switch, kinda use it for a security switch.
     
  10. junk yard kid
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    i say negative and heres why. The switch is rated at a steady amp and a momentary amp. Well if the electrons are flowing from the positive to the negative and some are getting used up by the starter and/or the system so there should be less going back into the battery. Thus less amps on the switch.
     
  11. simplyconnected
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    It depends on whether the electrons are painted Ford Blue, Chevy Orange, or Plymouth Sub-Lime. Yes, I know there are three choices. Mom & Dad had three kids; one of each.
     
  12. 48FordFanatic
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    You should always "switch " the hot side of any circuit.
     
  13. I used the Neg. side. that is what Caterpillar does.

    Lee
     
  14. tb33anda3rd
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    no, the current flow before and after is the same.
    Bob, it will actually work fine on either but i always put it on the positive side. rule of thumb is to always switch the positive most switches/fuses are on the positive side. horns, and early ford starter buttons are a couple exceptions to the rule that prove it will work fine either way.
     
  15. hemi rodder
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    actualy the electrons are leaving the negative side of the battery and are being attracted by the protons on the positive side battery terminals:D this is the scientific explanation but then there is the theory explanation + to - flow that we see in diagrams and books:rolleyes:
     
  16. keyster
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    I like to switch the negative side.
    I feel there are less positive terminals that way.
    If something should short the negative terminals to ground, no problem. The shut off may not work, but no fireworks.
    If the positive terminals gets shorted to ground, bad news.
    There is usually no fuse on the battery cable.
    If it shorts it will get ugly.

    I can't see that it makes any difference electrically.
     
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  17. JeffreyJames
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  18. John T.
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    NHRA rule book says Positive I say negative. I have relays that are wired straight to the battery. In an event I need all power cut off I want to know everything is shut off.

    I guess that's why I don't run NHRA
     
  19. 59 brook
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    pos and i'll give you a perfect example why. last weekend i went to change the motor mounts on my wagon. i had to drop the starter to get to the pass side. when i reinstalled the stater i somehow caught the starter tobattery cable between the starter and the block. as soon as i began to screw the little green knob on my disconnect it made a spark at the pos batterm and the starter. now if it was on the neg post my guess is that due to the fact that the engine was grounded to the frame and body i believe istill would have had a path for electricityto flow and to stop it i think i would havehad to physically remove the pos cable probably severly burningeither my hand or watching the electric system burn up. just my 2 cents. ifit's better to break the ground why do we put a fuse close to the battery when we run power to the trunk for something like a fuel pump or stereo. can't ever remember seeing a fuse on a ground wire
     
  20. bangngears
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    Negative side,that way your battery doesnt charge thru the switch.
     
  21. Neg. That way there is absolutly nothing the pos side can short to.
     
  22. bobscogin
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    It's like arguing which terminals the wires should go on when wiring a single pole, single throw toggle switch.

    Bob
     
  23. Dreddybear
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    Every Race organization I've belonged to makes you wire it to the positive side.
     
  24. 5window
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    Oh,Lord. Look-if it's on the positive side, the only thing powered, that could short or shock you, is the short stretch of cable from the battery to the switch.

    If it's on the negative side, EVERYTHING has power to it and is only waiting for a stray opportunity to be grounded and powered up. So your choices are 6" of wire vs your entire car!

    Why is this so complicated-please don't work on any rockets. :)
     
  25. The37Kid
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    5window, are there heavy duty or race car rated terminal covers that would protect that six inch danger zone? Bob
     
  26. old jetstar
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    With the shutoff on the negative post If something metal falls against the negative post or the battery falls over and the neg. grounds out,this will power everything up even with the switch shutoff....I suppose racing rules use it on the positive side so when there's an emergency such as a wreck when they shut off the disconnect,they're sure it's really off...
     
  27. Mike51Merc
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    OK, in order to illustrate the futility of these arguments, what if the car has positive ground?

    It doesn't matter which terminal the switch is on. If one side of a battery is disconnected, the entire battery is disconnected from a circuit.

    Oh, and in DC circuits the electrons flow from negative to positive.
     
  28. Bad Eye Bill
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    If it's on the negative side, NOTHING has ground to it but the short stretch of cable from the battery to the switch. It's not complicated, break either side = no current flow.

    Anyway, no sense arguing about it I guess, everyone is free to do as they choose.
     
  29. It is somewhat embarrassing to read what people think electricity does or does not do!

    If you break the circuit on a DC system at any point it accomplishes the same thing. Whether positive or negative you'll still have a "danger zone" where a circuit can be completed. The closer the switch to the battery the smaller the "danger zone".

    ~Alden
     

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