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Technical Poly tubing from hardware store?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by hoplias, Sep 8, 2014.

  1. hoplias
    Joined: Nov 5, 2007
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    Will the standard white poly tubing they sell at home depot hold up to oil and heat if I use it for oil pressure gauge ? I see autometer sells a kit but wondered if its any different ?
     
  2. Don't know, but why not just get copper if you're going to the hardware anyway?
    There's a good reason why NHRA won't allow that plastic crap under the hood.
     
  3. hoplias
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    needs something flexible though cause I am mounting it from block to firewall .I am just going to get a stainless steel hose though.
     
  4. jack_pine
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    Does NHRA allow copper? I thought it was prone to hairline cracks and they wanted steel lines. Not sure
    Just asking

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  5. Diavolo
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    You could run regular steel line if you put a tension relief coil in it for movement. Google "steel tubing relief coil" for a pic. It's just a couple of loops about 2" in diameter to allow flex between mounting points.
     
  6. unkledaddy
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    Don't some new oil pressure gauges come with poly tubing?
     
  7. Back in the 60's & 70's I had a couple of cars that I used the under dash aftermarket gauges and they used the clear plastic line.

    I experienced a catastrophic failure with my 66 Dodge van when the plastic tube cracked and I lost oil pressure on the interstate,,,when I heard the knock it was too late...

    Haven't used plastic since then. HRP
     
  8. stimpy
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    the tube used is actually nylon which will hold up better . poly has a low melting point and also isn't resistant to oils it will soften and blow out you can find the nylon on line . but IMO your better off to use something metallic . as for NHRA 1:9 general rules . as along as its metallic and smaller than 3/16ths thats all they care about . with the copper you can use the vibration/expansion coils , we used them on High pressure gauges on a boiler pumps without problems for years . and they vibrated real good . you could also use turne coated brake line or copper coated brake line , its steel inside to resist breakage and the coating won't rust .
     
  9. Bruce Lancaster
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    IMHO, an idiot light with a sender that functions at fairly high pressure is a good idea, especially on engines with ANY sort of external oil line...no matter what you are using, the consequence of failure is very great and so deserves a warning signal. You don't drive watching the gauge full time, and a failure can kill your engine rightdamnnow.
    NAPA has one that kicks on at 8-12 pounds, more than most, which should give you a moment to hit the switch before a connecting rod shuts down the engine for you.
     
  10. jseery
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    I use steel braded line for these type of applications.
     
  11. Hnstray
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    I agree with Bruce's recommendation about a well placed 'alert' light, but I also would use a flex line, i.e.
    high pressure hose, between the engine block and firewall, metal tube from firewall to instrument. and Although I am familiar with the relief coil mentioned, I would not rely on the flexibility of metal tubing between engine and body. Actually, my first preference would be an electric guage....as I have experienced an under dash oil line fracture that wet my shoes with engine oil before being noticed.

    Ray
     
  12. Engine man
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    If the line cracked enough to lose all the oil, the gauge had to be reading 0 oil pressure for a long time. The lines are usually so small that it would take a long time to run all of the oil out if it is cut off completely.
     
  13. Carquest & O'Reilly sell a kit that is probably nylon. You get the tubing ,nuts & adapters/connectors. I think it is under $20.00
     
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  14. loudbang
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    One word NO ask me how I know. It lasted about an hour then blew like a volcano lucky for me it was in the engine compartment and not the passenger compartment.
     
  15. loudbang
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    A warning idiot light AND a gauge is the best way and can be done with a simple "T" fitting allowing you to use both.
    A gauge and some knowledge can be used to diagnose future oil system problems and maybe distributor problems on the go which you can't do with just a light.

    I have used the line that comes with the gauges for 48 years and had that one failure only because I cheaped out for a few bucks and used "hardware store" stuff that one time when moving the gauge from one vehicle to another other than that never a problem.
     

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