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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Sonny Depalma, Nov 15, 2010.

  1. 28 jalopy
    Joined: Jan 16, 2010
    Posts: 208

    28 jalopy
    Member
    from arizona

    Northern AZ. is watching out and boycotting for you! My dad and Shakey Ben (pin stripers) were friends of Roth and my dad and I are on your side!
     
  2. swimeasy
    Joined: Oct 17, 2006
    Posts: 1,067

    swimeasy
    Member

    This is going to be a huge problem in the future because some of the "connected" generation have no problem with taking art, music, or whatever and just flat out steeling it! I think that you are doing the HAMB a great favor by making us aware of the fact that you have been riped off! Good luck in catching this jerk and thanks for the art!
     
  3. cooltoys1
    Joined: Nov 14, 2009
    Posts: 68

    cooltoys1
    Member
    from Buffalo NY

    Easy 39 blow, im was just askin. I didnt know it was signed.
    Cool your jets, speedracer.....damn
     
  4. Fourdy
    Joined: Dec 9, 2001
    Posts: 454

    Fourdy
    Member

    I've often wondered if the artists at the different car shows I frequent that airbrush Rat Fink T-shirts is an infringement on the rights of the Rat Fink name, org, etc?

    Just curious.

    Fourdy
     
  5. The Berne Convention asserts that authors of creative material become the copyright holder of said material upon initial formation of the work. Copyright is automatic and does not require that the artist register the work or mark it with copyright notation. It is the artist's property at the time of tangible creation. Registering the copyright does have benefits, including, but not limited to Public Record and Proof of ownership. In order to file a copyright infringement lawsuit, it must be registered, but this can be done at any time prior to the suit. Additionally, if the copyright is registered before an infringement, the owner of the copyright can claim certain alternate damages plus attorney's fees.
    Copyright's last for not less than 50 years past the creators (or owners) death.

     
  6. movingviolation
    Joined: Feb 19, 2005
    Posts: 1,174

    movingviolation
    Member

    No worries Sonny!

    Thieves are truly bottom feeders......
     
  7. roadworthy'49
    Joined: Apr 17, 2010
    Posts: 173

    roadworthy'49
    Member

    I'll keep an eye out
     
  8. Mnhotrodbuilder
    Joined: Jul 12, 2010
    Posts: 1,142

    Mnhotrodbuilder
    Member
    from Afton, MN

    I will not buy any and I will keep an eye out in southern AZ
     
  9. cooltoys1
    Joined: Nov 14, 2009
    Posts: 68

    cooltoys1
    Member
    from Buffalo NY

    Thanks Hotroddon, for that very concise and intelligent reply. Now i understand. Mucho thanks
     
  10. Jon SSS
    Joined: Jan 29, 2009
    Posts: 420

    Jon SSS
    Member

    Them Bastards! Check in upstate New York for more clues. Hint: Paul Jr. of OCC (or whatever) is good at ripping off people's designs. Could be him!?
     
  11. pastlane
    Joined: Oct 4, 2007
    Posts: 1,063

    pastlane
    Member

    Was a guy in Florida with no morals at all. He would color copy (now digital print) and laminate into a sticker any image he could get his hands on & wholesale them out to anyone & everyone. I know Sherry from Clay Smith, Chico from Moon & others including myself were after the guy for some time but bottom feeders are good at hiding.
     
  12. chopdtop
    Joined: Sep 11, 2005
    Posts: 527

    chopdtop
    Member

    Now why can't these thiefs have the luck that I have?

    Within 5 minutes of me trying to sell something like this, stolen image, I'd have the SWAT team busting down my door!

    Several years back I was sellings shirts on Ebay, that I got from another HAMBer, that were officially licensed and I had them removed from Ebay by the license holder. After a few phone calls Ebay was contacted by the license holder and the shirts were relisted for me.
     
  13. drchopper
    Joined: Aug 22, 2010
    Posts: 92

    drchopper
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    You are not lying about the Teutels "borrowing" ideas , I built this bike about 12 years ago and if you notice the primary drive belt gaurd , it looks kind of like "exactly like" what Paul Jr built his whole career on , this bike was featured in the Horse Backstreet choppers and Biker along with many photos in all of the bike publications at the time , I just would like a lil thank you from those untalented thieves !!
    [​IMG]

    I hope you find the pricks that stole your killer artwork and they get their come uppance !!!
     
  14. milner3268
    Joined: Oct 1, 2010
    Posts: 283

    milner3268
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    from buffalo NY

    If i see this punk around here Ill tie him to the bumper and DRAG HIM !!!!!
     
  15. fab32
    Joined: May 14, 2002
    Posts: 13,985

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    Member Emeritus

    I'm thinking "blanket party"................catch the scum and let's all join in.

    Frank
     
  16. Saxon
    Joined: Aug 9, 2008
    Posts: 2,157

    Saxon
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    from MN

    Some ideas are universal. If I put a flame job on at a 32' ford am I infringing on someone creative license? http://library.findlaw.com/1999/Jan/1/241476.html

    But this is a question of distribution. Copying an image identical to its creation and distributing it to masses. Not good and good luck.
     
  17. Troyz
    Joined: Oct 29, 2006
    Posts: 276

    Troyz
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    do you want us to post when we see them at a show? mooneyes x-mas party will be next for me and i'll keep an eye out. great tribute piece, sad that it got ripped off. integrity seems to be a fading trait.
     
  18. zman
    Joined: Apr 2, 2001
    Posts: 16,555

    zman
    ALLIANCE MEMBER
    from Garner, NC

    Signed or not, doesn't matter, but if the artist is nice enough to share for viewing and maybe even personal saving, but to turn around and sell it is stealing pure and simple. I applaud all the artists that share their work here for us. I hate to see it stop because people get ripped off.
     
  19. CURIOUS RASH
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  20. zmcmil2121
    Joined: Dec 13, 2009
    Posts: 625

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    Yeah, I know of only one swap meet, but I will tell every vendor that they are selling stolen merchandise. Sorry again, good luck taking that ass out!

    Plus, it is pretty cool that you knew ed "big daddy" roth!
     
  21. 39 tow
    Joined: Feb 19, 2009
    Posts: 15

    39 tow
    Member
    from Utah

    Alright I may have been a little heated, but damn I get sick of my personal art getting taken and used without my consent.
    There are a lot of artist losing a ton of money (some older ones even a living) because of the younger generation thinking they have a right to use everything they see.
    It sickens me to see; we can be better then this.

    P.S. I will keep a look out for the stickers here, although our season is about over now with the damn cold coming in, not very many shows.
     
    Last edited: Nov 16, 2010
  22. LOW LID DUDE
    Joined: Aug 16, 2007
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    LOW LID DUDE
    Member
    from Colorado

    Catch em , Tie a rope to em and draaaaag em ! YEA.
     
  23. tunram2quad
    Joined: Mar 16, 2007
    Posts: 168

    tunram2quad
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    sorry for the disrespect.haven't seen any yet,but i'll be watchin
     
  24. big bad john
    Joined: Aug 11, 2010
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    big bad john
    Member

    .....I'll keep a eye out for this crook..........I hate it when people steal....
     
  25. seventhirteen
    Joined: Sep 21, 2009
    Posts: 721

    seventhirteen
    Member
    from dago, ca

    i own a silkscreening shop and turn down this kind of stuff all the time. I hope this works out for you, I do wonder how the period inbetween your agreement with Ed in 1984 and the changes in ownership of ratfink will effect you. Typically change of ownership would void your licensing unless it is renewed, and i'd be shocked to hear that Mooneyes also gave you the go ahead to use the image when they owned it. Hopefully the legal mumbo jumbo doesn't get in the way of right and wrong....
     
  26. Buick59
    Joined: Mar 3, 2001
    Posts: 1,994

    Buick59
    Member
    from in a house

    Legal mumbo jumbo almost always gets in the way of right and wrong.
     
  27. skiviskaves
    Joined: Aug 3, 2009
    Posts: 256

    skiviskaves
    Member

    awesome artwork! sorry to hear you're getting ripped off
     
  28. PASTDUEBILL
    Joined: Apr 6, 2008
    Posts: 825

    PASTDUEBILL
    Member

    Just an observation, mind you, and I know no profit is being made, but about 20% of the people who commented on this thread have a copyrighted image in their avitar.

    Sorry your work was stolen.
     
  29. onedge
    Joined: May 25, 2006
    Posts: 1,000

    onedge
    Member

    will do. (good point pastduebill on the avitars)
     
  30. SteadyT
    Joined: Sep 11, 2007
    Posts: 482

    SteadyT
    Member

    What a bastard. Is it safe to assume YOU have proper licensing on the image?

    You don't need this bum finding a legal loop-hole...
     

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