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Original... 1932 K-member I.D. ?.

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by 31whitey, Aug 22, 2009.

  1. 31whitey
    Joined: Jan 2, 2007
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    So I got this here original 1932 frame...

    Well I scored some very nice 32 pedals with a super nice box....

    BUT....my original frame seems to have a mount already designed into the K-Member..

    My guess is this is an early frame(also believed to be from the great white north)...

    When was the frame changed and why?

    thank you

    Stefan
     
  2. 327-365hp
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    327-365hp
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    So you're saying the 32 pedals bolt to the original frame like it was made that way? Huh, how does that work? :D
     
  3. so the mount is not riveted in? i would like to see a pic of this.
     
  4. 31whitey
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    here is an old pic....Bad old pic....

    with some 36? pedals just sittin.

    Ill grab anoter in a minute...

    You can see the mount and the shaft....

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  5. 31whitey
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    Now Im no expert....

    but Im NOT thinkng they are all like this....

    But ive been wrong before
     
  6. Looks like someone has made that, the shaft holding hole bung thing has been welded in, they are usualy pressed in and that pivot housing casting is from later model.
     
  7. 31whitey
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    I hear ya fly....

    The bungs are definitely welded in now that I look closer....

    BUT....all the other pieces appear to be one continuous part....

    and the rivits...the ones facing downward, that would hold the box... are stiil in and flush....
     
  8. A continoos part from the angled K section......??????? cant be.............or can it.....dun dun daaaaaaaaaa

    I cant really see from those pics but the pedal bracket does not look to be an 'all in one' bracket with the angled K section.

    the rivets...from memory there should still be rivets there to hold it all together, even with the ones from the pedal bracket gone..........at least i think so. Someone with a better memory than me will chime in, hang in there and good luck. Good score.
     
  9. 31whitey
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    let me snap some new pics man....

    Thank you fly.
     
  10. Uptown83
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    those are not 32 pedals

    looks like you have part of the original pedal bracket on it
     
  11. 31whitey
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    Ya man....36 pedals....old pic....see original post....

    I have been told once that this integral mount was early design, flawed, and changed.....
     
  12. Uptown83
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    ah ok i got you... i misread.

    I never knew there was a early pedal design like that.
     
  13. 31whitey
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    Ya uptown....not sure either....

    heres some pics from today....
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  14. Well man you are bringing out the inspector in me......and i didnt even know he was in there :)

    See in the first pic, you can see the other side of the trans mount hole, the k member piece kinda follows the down sweep and has 2 rivets in it.........then when you look over the welded in bung you can see a hole in the same area, why would there be a hole with no rivet???????? Thats why i think someone has done it and its not factory. but that bump in the K with the pedal pivot support has me stuffed..........does in look welded in or stamped with the reast of the member?
     
  15. 31whitey
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    That bump is stamped man....

    and the opposing side is folded up 90 degrees...and part of the K stamping.

    Super confusing....The frame did come from Nova Scotia...
     
  16. Andy
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    It is factory. That is the early design. The Early Ford V8 Club has a new book on 32's that shows that design. Look at the bump in the leg to carry the shaft. Factory deal.
     
  17. Good on you Andy, thanks.
    You learn something new everyday........I would have thought it was done my someone else and cut it out hahahahahaha
     
  18. 31whitey
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    I believe you may have told me that Andy....sometime ago

    Any info on why? and why the change?

    was it to complicated or just refined.
     
  19. You going to roll with the orig whitey? man i wish mine would have come like that, would have saved me searching for a year for a pedal assy only to find out it was a 34 and have to modify it to fit.................
     
  20. 31whitey
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    No....I really would rather have an unchopped body....

    so Im waiting on a few pieces....hood, column, etc....

    and I am going to TRY to trade my entire project for an unchopped body....

    unlikely ....I know...I just really relate to the east coast builders of the mid fifities....
     
  21. jpbanjo
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    That's an early frame ( first month of production) The top flange on the crossmember that faces to the rear is the same all the way across on most frames. The real early frames have a notch cut back into the flange to clear the battary. Also, look at the front crossmember and see if there are two depressions where the front motor mount biscuits go. Early frames are smooth with no depression.
    See if you can find a serial number on the siderail top flange just ahead of the left side firewall mount hole. That should answer alot of questions.
     
  22. pasadenahotrod
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    How many digits is the frame VIN and is it prefixed with a B- or 18-?
    You'll find it just ahead of the firewall step, at the front door rear post and at the rear crossmember on top of the LH driver's side rail.
    I had a frame some years which was originally under a 32 3W that had been a drag race car for decades run by a local guy name Jimmy Piercy. It was really modified from years of racing and various engines, suspensions, but had a B- 4-digit frame number.
     
  23. 31whitey
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    Checked a few times since Ive had it...

    Just checked again....

    Those areas have little to no pits at all....

    no visible VIN stamped....

    Front crossmember was removed long ago.

    Great info here guys ......

    Thank you

    Stefan
     

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