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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by topher5150, Mar 1, 2017.

  1. tfeverfred
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    Progress is progress, man. Nice work.
     
  2. Black Clover Custom
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    Looks good man. But dont forget that on the front of the piece you just welded there is a cup built into it (welded onto it) that takes the ball end of the front bones. Two bolts hold it together. I will post a pic of it later tonight for ya. Otherwise your ball end with rubber cup wont have anything to slot into.
     
  3. topher5150
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    Thanks but I'm splitting the wish bone
     
  4. Black Clover Custom
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    Nice. What motor and trans will you be using?
     
  5. topher5150
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    I'm going with a SBF, and an AOD, or C-4
     
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  6. If you were in Kingman, AZ or near I'd have given you the frame free.

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  7. topher5150
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    If I was in Arizona I'd be buying all of those cars that everyone out west considers "rusty"
     
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  8. topher5150
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    I'd say the rivets are the strongest thing on this car
    IMG_20170930_165904369_HDR.jpg
     
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  10. RMONTY
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    Quit eating Beijing Beef and Chow mein and get to building!! :cool:
     
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  11. topher5150
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    I don't expect to get to much done this winter. Probably just going to start buying some parts for when it gets nice out again

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  12. phat rat
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    Winter is when you're supposed to work on it. That's why we have it. LOL
     
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  14. phat rat
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    Years ago a friend of mine used tarps over a wooden frame for a place to build his car over the winter. I thought it was a bit crude but it worked for him. He built a decent little A roadster
     
  15. lakeroadster
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    Just checked out your project... truly a back yard hot rod build. Destined to be a neat ride.
     
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  16. topher5150
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    I need a quick measurment. So according to these drawings the Merc frame, which i have, is 4" longer than the Ford frame. The plan is to move the plan is to move the cross member back..... Can anyone get me the measurement, from a Ford frame, of the distance from the transmission mount, our some other point of reference, to the front cross member?!??
     

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  17. topher5150
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    Just got my C.E. motor mount kit, didn't realize how thick those plates are. Can anyone help me with my previous post?
     
  18. razoo lew
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    I cant help with the measurement but have been wondering the same thing about my 118” wheelbase 46. Seems to me that to reduce the wheelbase by 4 inches would require the front crossmember to move back 4 inches. I have yet to find a dimensioned drawing of each frame to confirm this though, the extra length in the Merc frames looks to me to be between the steering box and front crossmember.
     
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  19. topher5150
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    I was think that to. I guess I wanted to have a difinitive awnser
     
  20. razoo lew
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    You have at it and I’ll monitor your results! Or with luck, someone will have a measurement.:)
     
  21. topher5150
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    Laid everything out with the speedway cross member back a set of holes and it looks like it all works out. I'll have to do the same with the steering box plate.
     
  22. razoo lew
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    Is the steering box in a different place from the 114 to the 118 inch chassis? I figured it was the same to keep the relationship with the body/ dash etc and used a different drag link. And again, I really dont know.
     
  23. topher5150
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    Someone PMd me some pics awhile ago about and it looks like the steering plates are the same just in a different position
     
  24. sawzall
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    the rails themselves are IDENTICAL from ford to MERC..
    IF your still in need of dimensions.. I have one of each frame now in my possession.
     
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  25. razoo lew
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    The drawings that I look at appear to have extra length for the 118 in wb compared to the 114 inch. But they are drawings, not a photograph. I can’t see the 118 inch Merc rails being the same as 114 inch Ford, but I do not have one of each to measure. (there is a 114 inch Merc as well, I am sure that this is the same as the 114 inch Ford are we all talking about the same thing?)
     
  26. sawzall
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    if I recall correctly.. the Ford parts book shows the same part number for rails for both mercury and ford. honestly it wasnt until I had a pair side by side that I realized how ford (merc) did everyting..

    the merc has a "unique" bracket that moves the wishbone pivot forward, the steering bracket is in a different position (if I recall correctly) and the mercs have their own (longer) steering column..

    the front crossmember is FORWARD of its usual location in a ford (with equally unique motor mounts that are somewhat "cantilevered" off the front crossmember in the merc frame. . it really doesn't make sense.. but from what I can see those are the notable changes..
     
  27. razoo lew
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    Ok @sawzall that makes sense. My 118 in WB frame has the cantilevered motor mounts exactly as you describe. I assumed that the steering box location was the same for 114 and 118 inch frames but the longer steering column would work too. Good information, thanks.
     
  28. topher5150
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    just thinking out loud here....I was talking to some people about my front suspension, and some one suggested that I can get a decent drop with a lowered reversed eye spring. I was thinking, at least for the time being just run the stock axle/spindles with a lowered spring and dropped crossmember. I was also wondering has anyone used the CE wishbone kit that keeps the wishbone intact on a lowered suspension?
     
  29. phat rat
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    Are you aware that CE has closed and gone out of business?
     
  30. topher5150
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    I know...there's still CE stuff floating around on ebay and such
     

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