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My new project 1951 Buick

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by aw1950, Oct 18, 2010.

  1. I did not like the way the filler pieces looked so I cut the tips off the panels ( where they swooped down around the park light assembly ) and smoothed things out better in the surround area . I am fabricating a new header panel as well and will end up with a 3/16" hood to panel gap . How many of us cut something apart a half dozen times . Isn't any wonder I don't seem to be getting anywhere. Geez !!
     

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  2. Peanut 1959
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    I like the new end contours much better. Its good that you tried the other shape, just so you could put that behind you.
     
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  3. For any that are keeping tabs it's been a while since I had anything to report . But as good fortune would have it I run into the guy I bought my project from in 2010 at the 2017 Atlantic Nationals ( check out their webpage / face book ) . Out of all the people there I run into him . Go figure ! Anyways , he told me the old guy that had a 51 Buick 4 door, that if you remember I got hinges from , had two complete + parts cars . I mentioned had ^^^ , as he has sold his 51 and the buyer was a wheeler dealer and did not want the parts cars. So I contact him and he is now ready to let them go , everything, lock , stock and barrel . I go see him on Saturday . Wish me luck . I will post some pictures if the deal comes together .
     
  4. koolkemp
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    That's great Andy, take lots of pics eh!


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  5. hacknwhack
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    I've been working on getting a pair of 53 spec. 4 Drs.
    Was thinking you could use the hood hinges assemblies.

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  6. You bet Steve , getting these cars is like Christmas morning as a kid . They are full right to the ceiling with parts . I will post some pictures this weekend . Everybody likes seeing what other HAMBERS score , I know I do ! PS did you make Moncton
     
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  7. Thanks for thinking of me Shane . I was going to go the front open way but it was going to be major surgery to get this stuff all working due to design differences at the cowl section . Besides a side opening is unique in todays environment of cars . Show attendees would think that it was customized to do that !! So I am good brother . Thanks
     
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  8. Rogers 1.jpg Well as previous mentioned yesterday I was checking out the buick part cars . There really wasn't a lot of useful items in the car that was full of parts . Generators , brake drums , broken mustache trim , nickel trim 4 door stuff , a lot of front end parts circa 1951 etc. so they stayed . I would end up cutting them up just to haul off for scrap . No sense . All is not a loss though I did buy two front fenders , a good front bumper ( mine is twisted ) and two repairable inner fenders . He won't be getting rid of anything any time soon . I will hit him up in the fall for his two rust free doors he has . They are 4 door doors but I would add the need length . I will post my purchase later this evening once I unload them !
     

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  9. Well heres the spoils . The inner fenders are straight and just a little repair needed compared to mine that were totally rusted away at the front leading edge . A small patch needed on the drive side fender and the pass side fender requires inner brace at the rear repaired . I am thinking of grafting on the much better condition front halve of these fenders . Also a great condition bumper . ( No bends or kinks )
     

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  10. Just a small update , was able to squeeze 2 hours in in the shop and started making the patch panel for the inner fender repair . It will take 4 individual panels to repair this area . All kinds of different angles and shapes . Pictures loaded backwards but you get it I am sure . Andy ..
     

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  11. Keep plugging away Andy, it's looking good!
     
  12. Thanks Dave for the comment^^^ . On another note guys , does anyone have a line on, or a 51 Mustache Trim assembly hanging in your shop for my car ? Due to not having access to these new fenders 1.5 years ago I sold what I had to a guy in Cali. . Now I am in search of trim and fender extensions again ( Got those ones out of French Lake ) . Go figure ! Should never sell anything until your car is complete I guess ! Thanks ! Andy...
     
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  13. hacknwhack
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    Pic coming of mustache.

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  14. hacknwhack
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    No chrome .piece cut out. drivers end extension missing.
    I call it restorable/paintable junk.
    Trade for 53 bar?


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  15. Thanks for the response Shane . What would I use for that filler piece ? . Would a 53 bolt right up ? Is there any difference other than script maybe ??? You have one 53 that is ? The old guy has one but its broken in two. I think pot metal can be repaired . There is a show in his village in two weeks . I think I will hit him up while I am there for the bar pieces if I can find both pieces and fender extensions . I know he had a real nice fender extension but would not part with it 2 years ago . Andy..
     
  16. hacknwhack
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    Somewhere in my piles, is that cut out piece...
    I have the missing extension but I tried a repair and it's poor,

    53 does not bolt up,
    Fits well under hood,
    But, it drops down about 2 inches more at fenders , some bolts match at fenders,
    As you know I modified my 51 a lot to make a 53 fit,
    Btw if your looking for a bar,,, 51 and 52 specials are same part ,
    Super and roadmasters are wider and won't fit,

    I have seen a few for sale in the aaca club forums
    Prices vary on quality,
    100 to 1000,
    Mine is in the 100 range,
    Have not seen one on eBay in years,,

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  17. hacknwhack
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    The real trick is shipping,
    They are fragile ,
    Would need to make a wood crate,
    Gonna be real pricey,


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  18. hacknwhack
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  19. Thanks again Shane . I will try out the old fella locally first before plan B,C,D, etc. LOL ! later man , Andy..
     
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  20. Well , got the worst part of the worst inner fender done today . Lots of fitting and welding / grinding to get it in this shape . Now I can move onto the other side once I get a few fatigue cracks repaired . Overall , this is in good shape considering the age ! Sorry some of the progress pictures are out of sync .
     

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  21. Well Steve 1 year to the day and I am finally going to attempt the Mercury opening into the Buick . Have a look . The last picture shows how much the two have the same A pillar sweep . Lots of figuring and cutting into the Buick roof but I am confident the two shall meet ! Might have to slice the Buick roof some but no big deal .
     

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  23. LONG
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    haven't been on here in a while. wow that's wild man.
     
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  24. Thanks Andy . I keep cutting this thing up I will never get done LOL ! You getting anywhere on yours ?
     
  25. Got a little time today on the Buick . The grafting is coming along but a lot to do yet for sure . Pictures are in reverse again . # 3 shows a big hole to fill !!! Tomorrow I will start cutting away on the bottom portion of the Mercury opening carving it up to fit as well .
     

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  26. Here I am once again , in deep . Fully committed at this juncture . I sliced up the Merc opening into four individual pieces and had to hack deep into the Buick dash to get this done . On the header panel of the opening on the drive side I added 5/8" to the width of the panel to get the upper and lower pieces lined back up . The A pillar is nice and flat where I welded the two pieces back together at the A panel . The windshield opening size is 11 1/2" edge of pinch weld to edge of pinch weld . The passenger side is just tacked for the time being and will require a filler of 5/8" as well, across the header panel. Not seen in these pictures is the fact I split the 2 upper corner pieces of the header panel at all the pinch welds to have a easier time of fitting the pieces . I will weld it all back together once everything fits as it should . Damn pictures are out of sync with the progress and I don't know how to change this ???
     

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  27. BrerHair
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    Wow is right! Damn if you didn't dive into the deep end Andy! We are watching a determined man fight his way out of a metal maze. Wow.
     

  28. LOL yeah Jimmy I am a sucker for punishment . I know what I want but its a lot of work and so little time it seems lately . Monday I should see so time in the shop all day and make a lot of progress ! We will see .
     
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  29. Roof 1.jpg For today I was able to spend some uninterrupted time in the shop . Got a big jump on the Mercury opening into the Buick . Before that did a little cleanup on the opening , the windshield opening and put stuff in weld thru primer behind the new Mercury opening on the A pillars . I cut a notch in the middle of the roof because there is a slight swage line on these Mercury windshield openings . This creates two slight planes on the left and right panels of the roof . I think without doing this I would have an issue with kinking of the roof . There is a nice subtle slope to the roof as once it was cut and dropped to meet the Mercury there was a 5/8" drop forward to the Buick roofline . I think when its all back together it will have very nice rooflines .
     

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  30. 100_0707 (800x600).jpg Not a great angle and is opposite side but the comparison is there somewhat . The Mercury opening is not so aggressive as the Buick . This is saving me a lot of $$$$ .Windshield for a Buick , up here , $ 500.00 then you have to cut it and hope you don't crack it . No players in town for that task , so it was going to be up to me . I opted for the Mercury flat glass .
     

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