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Hot Rods magnesium finish

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Inland empire hot rods, Apr 15, 2014.

  1. Chuck R
    Joined: Dec 23, 2001
    Posts: 1,347

    Chuck R
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    More Dow #7 info pulled from http://www.chemical-supermarket.com/Dow-7-Magnesium-Treatment-Compound-p652.html

    Chemical Name: Dow 7 Magnesium Treatment Compound
    Synonyms: Dow 7

    Product Description:
    The Dow 7 magnesium treatment compound is provided as a pre-
    mixed powder that is dissolved at time of use in 4 gallons of water.
    This will produce enough solution for a 4-gallon immersion bath.

    The complete process will require the initial activator solution which
    is available as either Type I or Type II. Scroll down to the “Related
    Products” section below to see the activators and description for their
    proper selection which is alloy dependent.

    Introduction:
    Magnesium and its alloys are more galvanically active than even zinc
    on the galvanic series. Magnesium will form a strong galvanic cell with
    every other metal it comes into contact with and is always sacrificial.
    When magnesium corrosion is detected, it requires immediate attention
    or the corrosion will spread throughout the entire structure. Therefore,
    these alloys must be properly protected from corrosion damage.

    Background:
    Dow 7 is a good choice for both new and overhauled parts that have
    dissimilar materials such as inserts, or where conditions will tolerate a
    less robust and less costly alternative to Dow 17 anodizing. It makes
    an excellent paint base and provides the best corrosion protection of
    the available chemical coatings for magnesium.

    Dow 7 is a chemical conversion coating which results in no appreciable
    dimensional change to the component. The surface of components coated
    with Dow 7 is changed to a brassy or dark brown finish depending on the
    alloy. Note that this coating film is dielectric (non-conductive).

    Process Description:
    The complete process requires two steps. The first step is an activator
    immersion which is done at ambient temperature in the range between
    70ºF and 90ºF. This is followed by a distilled water rinse.

    The second step will require a stainless steel vessel that will allow
    the heating of the Dow 7 solution to boiling point (200ºF). Immersion
    time for the parts is about 30 minutes, also followed by a water
    rinse before allowing to hang dry for 24 hours.
     
  2. 32v
    Joined: May 20, 2007
    Posts: 952

    32v
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    from v.i.

    I really believe it is nickel plating , I put a polished alum part up against my windshield frame (nickel plated) and the results are the same as the pics of the wheel
     
  3. AZbent
    Joined: Nov 26, 2011
    Posts: 279

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    Chuck is correct that magnesium is the most active anodic metal. When corrosion is detected, immediate action must be taken. Chromic acid can be applied to resist corrosion, it also provides a bond for other coatings to resist corrosion. This will give a golden or light brown color to the metal. unsure if you could polish the metal then apply the coating to get the look you are after.

    Google "Spec MIL-M-3171, type IV". Additional info, FAA AC 43.13-1B Para 6-148 thru 6-152. I tells you how to repair, remove corrosion, and treat to resist corrosion.

    Good luck, Mark
     
  4. Inland empire hot rods
    Joined: Aug 5, 2010
    Posts: 995

    Inland empire hot rods
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    from so cal

    thanks for the input guys! much appreciated!!!
     
  5. HOTRODPOWELL
    Joined: Feb 2, 2009
    Posts: 82

    HOTRODPOWELL

    Personally I like natural oxidation
     

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  6. Engine man
    Joined: Jan 30, 2011
    Posts: 3,480

    Engine man
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    from Wisconsin

    This is an example of why one should never patent anything. You are giving away your secrets to anyone that wants them. They can start a company using your idea to make lots of money then fold the company in bankruptcy if you can afford to defend your patent and win.
     
  7. Some good info. Looking forward to hearing what's drummed up.
     
  8. redo32
    Joined: Jul 16, 2008
    Posts: 2,166

    redo32
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    Interesting the twitter that a good add man and a little fib ( or lack of an honest description) will produce. These are nickel plated aluminum wheels. They look great for the rich instant gratification guys, but will look like hell after 15 years in a shed on the Gulf Coast.
     
  9. Inland empire hot rods
    Joined: Aug 5, 2010
    Posts: 995

    Inland empire hot rods
    Member
    from so cal

    Redo32, so if I'm in the dry socal desert, can I expect 20 years?....that would make me happy
     
  10. dumprat
    Joined: Dec 27, 2006
    Posts: 3,485

    dumprat
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    from b.c.

    We do tons of mag at work. We rebuild and overhaul heavy lift helicopters. The finish you are looking for is a trichromium pickle solution. It is easy to make but getting trichromium is not super easy. You mix it with water and plaster of Paris.

    The concentration of the mix will effect the color of the part, from yellow gold to deep black. It will also eat and convert any existing corrosion.

    It is also pretty toxic.
     
  11. So what is this that you speak of ,

    These are nickel plated aluminum wheels


    Is there a pic this statement referees too ?
     

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