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Hot Rods Let's talk Cadillac 331's, 365 and 390's

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Roothawg, Apr 7, 2016.

  1. Mike Paul
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    Anybody know the CC’s on an unsurfaced 1960 390 head? Need to know for ordering pistons. Thanks
     
  2. From literature I have taken off the internet the head combustion chamber is stated to be 67-70 cc,.... the volume with piston valve reliefs is stated as being approx 76cc. I can not personally confirm this, hopefully someone can add more precise info
     
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  3. Mike Paul
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    Thanks, those are the same numbers I found. I’m going to do an actual CC check on my heads this week and I’ll post my findings
     
  4. Mike Paul
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    Let’s talk timing chains. Anyone know of a double roller or equivalent for a 1950 331 or am I stuck with the stock style repops? Thanks
     
  5. Roothawg
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    I don't think there is for any of them until you get to the 472/500's.
     
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  6. Dogberg
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    Not that it makes any difference when you allready seem to have found one.
    The tiny bit is cut from the new gear shaft from a 331 model, needed it for a 390. thumbnail_IMG_1593.jpg
     
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  7. Dogberg
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    For this one!. thumbnail_IMG_1718.jpg
     

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  8. Roothawg
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    -62
     
  11. Mike Paul
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    Looking for 390 timing chain cover if anyone has one for sale. Want to get rid of the 331 rope seal cover I have. I tried posting in the wanted section of the classifieds with little luck so I figured I post it where all the Cadillac guys are. Thanks
     
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  12. There are a couple on Evil-bay now... $70-80 range.
     
  13. Mike Paul
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    Thanks, saw those. thought I would try here first
     
  14. Roothawg
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    2E0E8A35-26F3-4B5C-837E-0BE9CFA1A0A2.png Another issue that I’ve noticed is rocker arm wear where it contacts the top of the valve stem. I have a couple sets and most of them are worn like the photo I posted. What’s the solution? Find enough unworn ones? Can they be resurfaced?
     
  16. Roothawg
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  17. lumpy 63
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    Chris , the only thing I have left is a dampner a valley cover and an oil pump pick up .......
     
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  18. lumpy 63
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    My machine shop had a fixture to resurface rocker arms, but if they are really hammered they are probably junk.
     
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  19. sheparj2
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    . I had mine rebuilt by rocker arms unlimited. $350 plus shipping. Came back looking brand new.
     
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  20. sheparj2
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    Is there anything incorrect about how I have my PCV set up? It seems everyone else does this fancier so I was wondering if how I have it is ok.
     

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  21. wheeltramp brian
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    That PCV setup looks good to me as long as you have the breather tube clear to Fresh Air
     
  22. sheparj2
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    Thank you. When you say "breather tube", you are talking about the oil filler neck? I haven't found a cap small enough to fit so its very open right now. :)
     
  23. cretin
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    I've seen talk about using a modern harmonic balancer on these Cadillac's, but haven't seen any info about it. So, who has some info about actually doing it? Do you use a SBC balancer? I haven't tried to check any dimensions yet, but I'm going to assemble my engine soon, and I thought it was worth looking into.
     
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  24. My belief is they used to cut the crank snout off, drill and thread then weld on the Chev sized snout.
     
  25. Roothawg
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    I am wondering this myself…
     
  26. Moriarity
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    If you have the pvc that close to a breather it will not do its job of evacuating the crank case of fumes. The pvc will take the route of least resistance which is to suck fresh air thru the filler neck. What did you do with the port in the valley pan that the road draft tube usually goes to? That is where your pvc should be connected to so that fresh air enters the breather on the oil fill and is drawn thru the crankcase and the fumes removed by the pvc at the port where the road draft tube was. If you are wanting to leave the pvc on the filler tube you will have to get an oil cap that seals tightly and then figure out how to get the fresh air to come into the valley pan at the opening that the road draft tube was in.
     
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  27. That's how Cadillac did them in '62... how I've done it on both of my Cads; seems to work fine.
     
  28. Moriarity
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    where was the fresh air drawn into the system?
     
  29. Through the filter media in the oil cap.
     
  30. Moriarity
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    Am I not seeing his photos correctly? it looks like the inline pcv valve is connected to the oil filler tube?
     

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