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Technical Hook It vs Stick It DA Paper

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by s55mercury66, Apr 1, 2019.

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  1. Hook It

    12 vote(s)
    27.3%
  2. Stick It

    24 vote(s)
    54.5%
  3. Doesn't matter to me

    8 vote(s)
    18.2%
  1. s55mercury66
    Joined: Jul 6, 2009
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    s55mercury66
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    from SW Wyoming

    Just curious after decades of using both, which do you prefer to use, and why do you like your choice.
     
  2. tb33anda3rd
    Joined: Oct 8, 2010
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    I liked the hook it, until I found they changed which one had the hook, and which one had the loop. so I stopped using it and just get a roll of stick it.
     
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  3. Oldioron
    Joined: Dec 12, 2018
    Posts: 521

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    Stick it, I like fresh sand paper with the cost of hookit I feel I have to use the shit out of it. I block with the DA so new paper is a necessity.
     
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  4. BamaMav
    Joined: Jun 19, 2011
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    from Berry, AL

    Stick on, never tried the velcro stuff.
     
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  5. Bugguts
    Joined: Aug 13, 2011
    Posts: 542

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    I like Hook it. You can remove the sandpaper and change grits easily. You can save a partially used piece for later without the adhesive getting ruined by dust.
     
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  6. RMR&C
    Joined: Dec 26, 2009
    Posts: 3,011

    RMR&C
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    from NW Montana

    Stick it. Also handy to use on small sanding blocks for tight areas. Or fold it over for hand sanding anything. I have a cheap electric orbital I use with DA paper....works great for stripping paint or light rust.
     
  7. bct
    Joined: Apr 4, 2005
    Posts: 2,962

    bct
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    I agree
     
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  8. blowby
    Joined: Dec 27, 2012
    Posts: 5,732

    blowby
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    from Nicasio Ca

    At home I have the stick it. At school we have the hook it with holes, the DAs have vacuum hookups. You can sand an entire car in your Sunday duds, plus the paper doesn't seem to clog or wear out as fast. But I have no idea what it costs.
     
  9. 41rodderz
    Joined: Sep 27, 2010
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    from Oregon

    I use stick on mostly , but I have learned that the paper it is on is so important. HF paper backing cracks , grrrrr
     
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  10. Shutter Speed
    Joined: Feb 2, 2017
    Posts: 374

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    Use em both. Hook it for ease of changing, but stick on for contoured or flat blocks when hand sanding.
     
  11. I use stick it... when done with it on the DA I fold it in half and do edges... double duty :)
     
  12. Rusty O'Toole
    Joined: Sep 17, 2006
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    Does anyone else remember 3M Feathering Disc Adhesive? Before hooks or stickies that is what we had. I went back to it because I don't do enough bodywork to use up a roll of stickies. So I buy sheets of sandpaper, glue it on the orbital and cut around with an old pair of scissors. It saves money and I don't have to buy paper I don't need.
     
  13. OLSKOOL57
    Joined: Feb 14, 2019
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    Yes, I remember the adhesive. Used it a lot in the 70’s. Been using the self stick since it came out.
     
  14. blowby
    Joined: Dec 27, 2012
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    blowby
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    from Nicasio Ca

    Me too. I don't remember if it was the adhesive or self stick type that if you left it on too long the paper wouldn't want to come off. Lots of picking little pieces one at a time.
     
  15. Rusty O'Toole
    Joined: Sep 17, 2006
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    You had to heat the paper up with a torch then it would peel off. Every once in a while you needed to clean off the old glue with a rag and thinners. No doubt the sticky discs were more convenient and so are the hook and eye.
     
  16. if its been a while, run it for a bit to get some heat into it and it will come off,,, but you need to remember that before you start picking.

    stick it,
    and i have a can of cheap spray tac from the craft store so changing back and forth and reusing is pretty easy. the spray tac is great for other stuff too. lay out your custom made parts on graph paper, s[pray tack the paper to the steel and saw cut, drill, etc
     
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  17. s55mercury66
    Joined: Jul 6, 2009
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    from SW Wyoming

    I too, remember the disc adhesive, first in a tube, then in a little spray can. I found a can at the last collision shop I worked at last year, it had probably been there since the '80's. How many will admit to using it for trim adhesive in a pinch? :rolleyes:
     
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  18. Stueeee
    Joined: Oct 21, 2015
    Posts: 168

    Stueeee
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    from Kent, UK

    I agree, Starting from here:
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    and going to an eventual mirror polish via this:

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    Involves using quite a lot of fine grit discs of various grades on my DA, changing back and forth is easy with hook and loop discs.
     
  19. Fabber McGee
    Joined: Nov 22, 2013
    Posts: 677

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    I apprenticed in the body shop at our local Chevy dealer in 73 and stayed in that trade on and off until the early 80's. Sticky paper was just starting to show up when I switched to welding as a career around 1980. At that time sticky paper cost about twice what bare paper cost. So when the sample rolls of sticky paper left for us by the paint stores ran out that's all we got, the shops wouldn't buy any. I still have several boxes of bare paper in my shop to use up. I was too cheap to buy the sticky stuff too. I do have a couple rolls of it now, just because nobody (around here at least) stocks bare paper or the "Feathering Disc Adhesive".
    Haha, I'd never heard of Velcro paper til now, it must really be expensive.
     
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  20. Hollywood-East
    Joined: Mar 13, 2008
    Posts: 990

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    Stick it here, started with tube, then spray..
     
  21. I prefer hookers to stickers
     
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  22. I like the hook stuff, easy to change in dusty environments and with funky hands. It stores a lot longer too.
     
  23. Hot Rods Ta Hell
    Joined: Apr 20, 2008
    Posts: 3,762

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    Yep, used to use the 3M feathering disc adhesive. Red and white tube IIRC. If it got too hot, like a hot day and a lot of friction, the discs would fly off like a clay pigeon, lol!

    Back in 80's/90's at the Pomona Swap Meet some old guy ("the sandpaper man") had a sellers space where he sold reams of sandpaper really cheap. It came out to 10-15 cents a sheet. It was good stuff too-3M, etc. Socal Aviation industry surplus. He also carried files, drill bits and aircraft type metal working tools. I'd watch TV (NASCAR race, etc) and trace discs and cut out a stack with big ass scissors.
    I go with peel n stick now.
     
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  24. 41rodderz
    Joined: Sep 27, 2010
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    from Oregon

    I remember that. A pain in the you know what.
     
  25. Doublepumper
    Joined: Jun 26, 2016
    Posts: 240

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    Ha...I used to use the spray 3M disc adhesive. About ten years ago I went to the paint store to get some more. I couldn't find it on the shelf where I thought it should be, so I asked for it and they didn't know what I was talking about. I explained to them what it was and they said nobody uses that anymore, all the discs now have the adhesive already on them. Say what? Now there are discs with hooks.......I just can't catch up!
     
  26. Hook stuff is good, but eventually the DA side wears out and won't stick to the discs anymore. You can buy the stick-on backing which you use to convert the stick-on type to the Velcro (hook) type. Usually a good time to replace the thin sponge backing pad on the sander too.
     
  27. theHIGHLANDER
    Joined: Jun 3, 2005
    Posts: 7,652

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    I've got both pads/backers, the self-stick and hook-it. I use the hook-it for fine finishing in no more than 1000 grit. While they don't spec it, with the 3M "plastic paper" the hook-it is made out of you can actually wet sand with it. My course of action is 1200 to 1500 (sometimes Meguires foam pad 1500), to 2000, then finish off with 3000 foam pad hook-it, then for that truly anal desire for distinctive reflections I'll keep my worn 3000s around for that. All my stick it papers go from 80 thru 400 grit. They're especially nice for metal finishing using a DA sander converted to a single action spindle that replaces the orbital head.
     
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  28. indyjps
    Joined: Feb 21, 2007
    Posts: 3,572

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    Stick it, hook it is expensive. I gave all my hook it tools to my dad for woodworking.
    Have normal air tools but bought an electric DA with stick it pad, comes in handy sometimes not having to run the compressor (home shop late at night)

    Peel the paper off when youre done. Dont leave it on the DA and put it back in the box. If it still has life stick it on some waxed paper. A month later that paper will be glued on the pad.
     
  29. Yep...
     
  30. Budget36
    Joined: Nov 29, 2014
    Posts: 2,042

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    Let me know what you use...(for the sticky stuff)...used to use some stuff that would never set up. Can't find it anymore
     

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