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Technical Harmonic balance nightmare

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Karl M, Sep 25, 2018.

  1. Fortunateson
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    Now you got me started! See it all the time and I'm called out on it!!! Anyway, it's time to dampen this line of thinking and get back to regular programming.
     
  2. Fortunateson
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    "Irregardless"? Is there no end to this? LOL. Regardless negates so irregardless negates the negation.
     
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  3. Karl M
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    Going to try and upload a picture of it running tonight and get some opinions on the vibration, if it comes out ok. Yep, some of the welds look good and others look like bird poo. Will try one of the those close in drills and a hole saw/cutter to try and remove some of the weld first....
     
  4. Truck64
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    Whoosh!!
     
  5. The Shift Wizard
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    Careful. If you keep on talking sense the HAMB will never be the same. :p
    Language is a living thing and constantly changing. New words are coined, old meanings changed (even reversed), new pronunciations for old words, yep.... yepper. It used to be you learned "acceptable" language from your clan, your village, your master craftsman when you were an apprentice. Now we have blogs, internet How-Tos, and Youtube videos to teach us the right and the wrong, the bitter with the badder. With computers and internet, we can now make mistakes so fast and so widespread, we can change our language much quicker than ever before.
     
  6. Up to you but hole saws aren't the best on hard materials like welds. Better ones are expensive too. You have to get quite a bit of it removed before the "round-flattish-thing-stuck-on-the-end-of-the-crank" will come off with a puller.
     
  7. dirty old man
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    If it were me I would give the short block to Sanford &Son. Or at the least remove crank, damper, and timing cover as a unit and give that to Fred & Lamont.
     
  8. sunbeam
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    It looks like a good puller would overcome those welds
     
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  9. dirty old man
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    But would you go to the trouble and expense to rebuild that engine with that
    crank in it? Not me!!!!!!!!!
     
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  10. LOL I am not sure what a "mute point" is either? Now I have heard of a moot point.;)
     
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  11. dirty old man
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    This is HAMB, not English 101.
     
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  12. BJR
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    Or english 001.:confused:
     
  13. Karl M
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    here you go, power steering pump needs replacing also,
     
  14. Truck64
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    Good for you, a lot of people take that stuff for granite.
     
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  15. I always shoot for proper grammar but when i reread old posts I realize I miss the target pretty often.
    Sorry i have no suggestions for the"round-flattish-thing-stuck-on-the-end-of-the-crank" except replace the crank and the "thingy"
     
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  16. saltflats
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    Hard to tell from the video, but that power steering pump sound like ass.
     
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  17. Agree hard to tell with video. Make another video with belt/belts? removed.
     
  18. gene-koning
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    What to do? Lets review.
    It runs now, but something isn't right, and the motor smokes as well.
    If you pull the balancer, you should probably cut the welds before you pull it off.
    After you cut the welds, and pull the balancer off, a new one probably will not hold tight onto the crank. What will you do then?
    To tap threads into the end of the crank so you can add a bolt, you will probably have to pull the crank out of the motor. If you pull the crank, it doesn't make much sense not to fix the rest of the motor.
    From where I'm sitting, so many mile away, I would be looking for a motor to replace the one you have. Its pretty easy to spend other peoples money.
    Between now and then, I would fix the power steering pump, and what ever else is needed and drive the thing, carefully.

    Incorrect spelling and incorrect word usage is intentional, it is included to give the grammar police something to look for. Gene
     
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  19. F-ONE
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    One of the French Benefits of the HAMB is learning to use the correct theology for the subject at had.
     
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  20. F-ONE
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    Karl,
    Don't throw the bathtub out with the baby water....

    Seriously though,
    Have you checked the usual suspects? Points...Plugs..Timing ...compression check...valve adjustment....carburetor adjustment. Then there's silly stuff like motor and transmission mounts.
    Vibration underway?
    Could be wheels, wheel bearings, U joints...lots of stuff will cause vibrations.

    I've seen one of these little engines so worn out in a straight shift it would not hold on hill or any incline without the parking brake on. It was that loose. It ran smooth though.
     
  21. brigrat
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    With that kind of work, you have to ask yourself if that's even the right dampener for that motor.
    Don't forget you also have a thrust surface bearing that when worn out will let crank move fore and aft and vibrate as well.............................................
     
  22. The fact is there... get deeper into it and you open 1 can of worms after another. I have driven better engines into the scrap yard and exchanged them for $$.
     
  23. :)So next would be negateless? :)

     
  24. Is one sharper that the other?
     
  25. the oil soup
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    Language is a living thing and constantly changing.
    Maybe someone should start a thread on the Great Vowel Shift.
     
  26. s55mercury66
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    We had better be careful not to dampen our balanced conversation on dampening.
     
  27. Y'all just make sure the floor boards aren't damp or is it damper?

    My chimney flue had a damper and when it rained it was a damper damper.
     
  28. Truck64
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    Yeah, still trying to absorb all this.
     
  29. KenC
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    Sure glad it's a Shift, not a Movement.
     
  30. gimpyshotrods
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    The vowel movement?

    Or the new prevalence of the verb free sentence.

    Example: Needs restored. Needs rebuilt.
     
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