If there is anyone in Kansas that can help me set up my 8' ford rear end I would work it out in your shop on the weekend or pay $$ whichever. I just want to learn to do it myself. thank you in advance ---- John
or do you know who I should send it to to have done I have a 3:55 ring and pinion gear set I need installed any help would be appreciated
Well, I ain't in Kansas at the moment...but I used to end up doing lots of ring and pinion/rear axle work at the Ford dealer years ago, and I can tell ya that it really ain't all that hard. There's some muscle power involved, and having the right tools and supplies is important...but it's not that bad once you've done a few of 'em. Short of typing it all out myself to describe my methods, I think this link will get you started nicely. Any questions, don't hessitate to ask, though! http://www.ridgecrest.ca.us/~biesiade/gearinstal.html
I'm in Kansas but a long ways off. I'd suggest the Richmond tape. Harbor Freight will sell you the magnetic stand and dial indicator for about $13. I bought my inch pound torque wrench off of the internet for about $15 as military surplus. Lots of good instructions on the internet and some of the sites are listed on the HAMB. Not as big a job as most mechanics will tell you. Take your time and you will do fine. Their are several old racers in the Manhattan area that will put it together for less than the gas would cost you to get here and I'm sure they will let you watch.
Ha Ha...just thank me by getting your car on the road and enjoying it with them healthy new gears!! There's some things you might run into, and a few tricks you might pick up along the way if you tackle enough rear axle jobs. Putting the ring gear in an oven and heating up a couple hundred degrees (250 degrees works okay) for about 20 minutes will make it real easy to slip onto the carrier. Some guys pound 'em on, or use the bolts to draw the gear into place, but the heating trick (with some really good gloves or mits!) gives you a far better shot at getting your gears installed without damaging them. At the dealer, my partner would use a torch in place of an oven, but I think the oven heats the gear in a more uniform fashion. Most of what we worked with were either 8.8" rears or Dana axles, but a few 9" rears still showed up now and then....mainly in light trucks. The 8" Ford is one of the best all-around rears you can use for general street rodding applications. It's as strong as you're likely to need...popular ratios are available, and it's not a bad looking rear axle, either! The removeable carrier section makes it pleasant to work with, too...you can do all the real work on your bench rather than under the car...as is the case with integral style rear axles!!
I don't know Performance Machine. Is that Billy Graham? It doesn't hurt to call and ask for prices and if it is ok to watch. A lot of those guys are gettin enough age on them that they want to pass the information along.
This info helped me just read it compleatly then read again. After you do it once you will wonder what all the fuss was about. This info was brought to you today by Squirrel. http://www.selectric.org/manuals/rearend/indexford.html
Well a small update on the third member have it tore down and ordered the new ring and pinion for it plus all new seals and bearings!! just wanted to say thank you for all the help and this would be the power of the HAMB!!!
You will find this is easier than you ever thought. Just read the stuff that Squirrel has and you will have a good time.
The only thing that will really be that hard is installing the bearings and setting pinion depth/preload. Just hope you ordered from a good company that has instructions then the rest is a breeze.
yup went with the best Richmond gear! also ordered their set up kit to get everything I needed and a dial indicator for 8-9" read ends from summit.
Over in the industrial park in Manhattan there are a couple places you might try. Both of them are on Hostetler. B&H, and Performance Machine. I don't know if either setup rearends, but I've used B&H for quite a few things when I was in Manhappyness. Sorry the old black guys name escapes me but he did damn good work. Archie? Arnie? Or I may be way off.
Hell, you've got it whipped with having richmond and the setup kit! As long as you're good with that dial indicator you'll have the backlash and pinion depth set no prob, which these are two of the biggest things in setting up gears adjustment wise. Good luck! By the way big show and street party coming up in Wichita Satruday the 14th in Old Town from 6p.m. to midnight, show cars allowed in at 4 and at midnight they are havin a cruise. Should be sweet I'll be going once again this year!
sorry man wont make it this year thrashing the J for the hamb drags and going to branson auction this fall.........
You goin to the hamb drags at Mokan? I'm planning on bein there if the weather is fairly nice it's only about a 2 hour drive for me. You know what they're gonna charge to get in?
A note to every one who gave me great advice the rearend is together and working great!!!!! Thank you so much for all the help!!!!!
Did you do the grunt work yourself, or send it out?? Either way, congrats on getting your ride that much closer to the road...but if you went through the process yourself, then you now know it ain't no big deal!! It only gets easier with practice, too!!
Did it all myself, over a three day period looking at a couple web sites and Richmond's video. Now I gotta get my axles and its road worthy again!!!!! Well except the paint of course. ----- John
Awesome! Hope you have fun drivin it just put it through a few heat up and cool down cycles first to break it in a little then you can thrash on it!
Yeah almost put in a mini spool but thought better of it. How do you feel about Moser axles or should I go with Currie???
Moser is definately a good set of axles, me and some of my friends used to run them alot in our dirt stock cars and they held up really well. Haven't had any experience with Currie but they have a good rep among the 4X4 and off road crowd.