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GM Rally wheel mystery

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Flat Broke Hotrods, Oct 22, 2010.

  1. Flat Broke Hotrods
    Joined: Oct 22, 2010
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    Just got home with my new toy, a '46 Ford coupe. It's got what sure looks like a 10 bolt rear and a early/mid '70s Nova front end and GM rally wheels, 15 X 8 at the rear and 15 X 7 up front. Okay, that's all good. Here's the mystery part. I popped off a couple of the hub caps and measured the bolt pattern, just thinking about changing the wheels and the bolt pattern is 5 on 4 1/2. To the best of my knowledge, GM never made anything with that bolt pattern and yes, I'm real sure. I've gone back and re-measured about 14 times and there's no question, they are 5 on 4 1/2 inches. They are NOT 5 on 4 3/4. The wheels are stamped 'GM K-1' between the bolt holes and the 8 inch ones are stamped 'AZ' by the valve stem. Haven't looked at the fronts. So. What's up with that?
     
  2. Jalopy Joker
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    if they have 10 bolt holes they are for GM & Ford-search here for thread: lug nut patterns and spacing - The final thread. post some pics of your rims, etc
     
  3. F&J
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    First thought is that you are measuring wrong.

    Don't take it as an insult, it's just in case you did not know: Measure from the center of one lug hole to the outside edge of a lug hole on the other side...meaning skip one hole.

    If you are measuring center to center, you would get 4.5 on a chevy wheel.
     
  4. gardenjeg
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    Probably a after market copy of chevy rally wheel do you have any pictures? The center hubcaps probably are a different size also.
     
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  5. Fast67VelleN2O
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    The AZ coded 15x8 wheels are 4-3/4". You are measuring wrong.
     
  6. post a picture of them and be sure to include one of you measuring the bolt circle. easy to measure wrong and because of that i have picked up some cheap aftermarket wheels that somebody claimed were mopar but were really GM.
     
  7. yekoms
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  8. Flat Broke Hotrods
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    Yup. You guys are right. I measured wrong. I knew that once but I forgot it. I got a real good memory but it's SHORT. Seems like the older I get, the shorter it gets too. ;-)
     
  9. F&J
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    join the club....:(... there's other things that go bad with age but I forgot exactly what :confused:
     
  10. Deuces
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    I got pics of a '62 Fairlane that has the Chevy Rallyes on it......
     
  11. So how do you measure? I have been looking for 5 x 4 3/4 but have been measuring center to center on the bolts and I always seem to come up with 4 1/2
     
  12. squirrel
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    center of one hole to the outer edge of the opposite hole
     
  13. measureing up short can be a problem for alot of men...
     
  14. HEATHEN
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    All right. Now, go sit in the corner and think about what you've done.
     
  15. Lobucrod
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    on five hole wheels i always measure center to center skipping one hole and add 1/4 inch. Squirrel's method works just as good.
     
  16. Great thanks! That will help me alot : )
     
  17. Ranunculous
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    Life's a cinch with an extra inch!

    Those plastic bolt pattern index wheels sold at car shows are well worth the money.
    I have to get one too!
     
  18. Helpful picture

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  19. draggin'GTO
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    The '61 -'63 Pontiac Tempest & LeMans cars actually did have 15" wheels with the 5 on 4-1/2" bolt pattern. Of course these cars never came with rally wheels of any kind.
     
  20. Earlier in the year WHEELKID had a thread with with a listing of all GM ralley wheels with size, width, years, and vehicles they came on. Found out the two I have are for '70 El Camino. I would put the link in this post but how that is done is still magic to me.
     

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