I sorta had 3 ford engines follow me home. 1 pretty complete 6 cyl. One partial 6 cyl and a V-8 disassembled short block. I need to get them IDed valued and moved along but I don't know where to start. Where's the numbers on these things ? Bores and crank look great, certainly a good builder.
I'll bite. The six looks to a 200 and the v8 is either a 351 or 302. Casting numbers are on the side of the block which can narrow down the year.
Which side and where are the numbers? This stuff came from my friends son who was into early mustangs 20 years ago.
I think the six on the left is a 200 cu in engine, looks to have five core plugs under the exhaust manifold and the other one has three so it is either a 144 ( I think they were) or a 170. I think the 144/170 has a generator bracket on it so must be an earlier one.
The 200 is a late-style block, with the modified V8 SBF pattern. The 144/170 has the early 8-1/2" bell pattern. Check for a part number on the log of the intake manifold, toward the front. That will give the year. Decade by letter (C=1960's, D=1970's, E=1980's). I am guessing 1970's on the 200 (else Econoline Van, 1980-1983). On the 144/170, look at the pad near the front of the block, by the distributor. There is a sole stamping there. It is a letter T, or a letter N. T = 170. N = 144. If you find neither, you may have the fairly rare very early 4-main bearing 200, after that they, and the 250 had 7-main bearings.
The deck on the blue one looks too low to be a 250, but you can verify that quickly. A 200 has a water pump held on by 3-bolts. A 250 has a water pump held on by 4-bolts.
The 144/170, if running well, could be worth $300-400. I have a 144 that is in excellent shape, that I am planning on paying forward when it comes out of my Falcon. I will see if I can find a young person staring out, and hook them up. The 200 would be worth a little more than that. In either case, these are pretty esoteric engines. Most folks don't want them. Prepped right, a 200 can make 200hp and 350lb.-ft. of torque. Plenty for a lightweight early Falcon or Mustang. Overall, with the right balance of factory and aftermarket parts, they are more efficient than your average V8, at the same power level. I like them, but I am a little nutty.
On the early 6 the valve covers were usally blue on the 144 and red on 170s if there is any paint left.
If you end up having to send the 144/170 to scrap, I will buy the rocker arm assembly from you, if they are the adjustable ones.
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