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ford banjo spider gears, sources?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by redbeard, Feb 5, 2007.

  1. redbeard
    Joined: Nov 18, 2002
    Posts: 713

    redbeard
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    does anyone make new spider gears for the ford banjo rear 1935-48?

    I can find axles and ring and pinions but my spider gears look like I should
    replace them, copper showing through.

    I am putting good parts in the rest of the rear and don't want to put it together just to do it again soon.

    thanks for any help

    I am also looking for torque specs for the banjo ring gear and housing bolts
     
  2. lik2writ
    Joined: Feb 12, 2004
    Posts: 434

    lik2writ
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    from NY

    Joblot does; www.joblotauto.com. Also, request the full catalog, great reference pics.
    toll free 1-800-221-0172
    e-mail: [email protected] (they do answer e-mail questions unlike some)
     
  3. redbeard
    Joined: Nov 18, 2002
    Posts: 713

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    thank you guys very much,
    viva la hamb
     

  4. Rex Schimmer
    Joined: Nov 17, 2006
    Posts: 743

    Rex Schimmer
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    from Fulton, CA

    I took one of my axles to a differential specialist place in Sacramento and told the guy that I wanted a set of side gears that looked like this! He took one look and said " 7and a half Ford" walked back and sold me a box with the side gears and the spider gears. Only the side gears fit and they were exactly the same with a 28 spline. I had to maching the carrier to fit them but it was not a real problem. I haven't gotten them on the street yet (SOON I hope!) but they were the exact same gear except they had internal splines and a boss on the back side that you need to machine the carrier for.

    I see you are in Santa Rosa, I live in Fulton, drop me a PM and I will give you the info. I am traveling this week but should be home by Friday and I am sure that I still have the box they came in.

    Rex
     
  5. butch27
    Joined: Dec 10, 2004
    Posts: 2,847

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    That sounds like what some of the shops are selling now?? Part numbers please.
     
  6. WOW!! I'm gonna have to blow that ol' 7.5 Mustang rear apart now, to see what the side gears look like.
     
  7. butch27
    Joined: Dec 10, 2004
    Posts: 2,847

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    Can we bump this back to top to get those part numbers??
     
  8. seabeecmc
    Joined: Jan 28, 2005
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    Don't leave us hanging. Anybody know the part number? Regards, Ron
     
  9. fordcragar
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    fordcragar
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    from Yakima WA.

  10. Ken Smith
    Joined: Dec 6, 2005
    Posts: 420

    Ken Smith
    Alliance Vendor

    For the record, our axle gears are specifically designed and manufactured to our specifications for this use. (with a substantial investment on our part). They are not off the shelf OEM gears. They are a clone of the 16 tooth Early Ford axle gear, but with 28 splines. Our part number is #1102. They mesh beautifully with the stock early Ford 11 tooth spiders. See them at www.hotrodworks.com

    Many different gears have been used to perform axle conversions over the last 50 years. Merc, F1, 9", 8" and 7.5" gears. Each has their own problems, but obviously have been made to work. One problem is the hub diameter is so large that after boring the ring gear and differential, the wall thickness of the bearing support is, in our opinion, too thin.

    We ponied up to make our own gears in order to find the best solution to the early Ford axle conversion problems.

    Ken
     
  11. butch27
    Joined: Dec 10, 2004
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    butch27
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    I think I'll stick with Ken. If you have to machine the carrier you will be better off buying HRW's.
     
  12. Ken Smith
    Joined: Dec 6, 2005
    Posts: 420

    Ken Smith
    Alliance Vendor

    You do have to machine the carrier and ring gear with our gears, just not as much.
    Ken
     

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