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Ford 302 problem

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by galaxie65, Apr 17, 2010.

  1. galaxie65
    Joined: Nov 28, 2009
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    I just put a 302 out of a 71 torino that was running when i pulled it out and i put it in my model a and cant get it to start and run it back fires through the carb

    I heard through the grapevine that a ford 302 at some time had 2 different firing orders and i cannot seem to find both of them if anyone has any info on anything that could help me please post
     
  2. Merlin
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    from Inman, SC

    Sounds like it's out of time, Did you mess with the distributor or wires?

    Up to about 84 the order is 1-5-4-2-6-3-7-8.
     
  3. galaxie65
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    well i put a brand new distributor in it and i know thats what it sounds like but i have pulled that distributor out and timed it 20 times
     
  4. R Pope
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    You mean 15426378. If it's had a 351 cam swap, it'll be 13726548.
     
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  5. Checking the firing order is job one with these engines. There is some confusion with the firing order. A 302 roller motor (5.0 HO) from the 1980's has the same firing order as a 351W, and I have seen that mess people up. The other thing to check is the distributor. It can be a pain sometimes to get that exactly right with these engines. It is easy to be off either a little or alot. The best one I saw was when a friend of a friend who was throwing together a mustang for his wife called me over. He was a die hard chevy guy and was having trouble getting the engine to fire. In conversation I went over what he had done, and it sounded like he had it handled, so WTF? I suggested that we swallow our pride and recheck number one. Low and behold Chevy guy was trying to set TDC off of number 5 -driver's front! I understand this is probably a rare instance, but he got in a hurry and did not stop to double check his facts. Probably not your situation but hopefully a little entertaining.
     
  6. FritzTownFord
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    So which cylinder IS #1 on a roller 301?
     
  7. George
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    Passenger front is #1 regardless of firing order.
     
  8. Well you see the trick is to drink enough beer to get rid of that 1 cubic inch...LOL!
     
  9. Vandy
    Joined: Nov 15, 2009
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    from L.A. Ca

    Be advised the #1 bank is 1234 and the other is 5678 not back and forth like other motors.
    Van
     
  10. The Law
    Joined: Sep 26, 2007
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    Sounds like the distributor is 180 out.
     
  11. claymore
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    Yep 99% of the time popping back through the carburetor is timing related and with new distributor most of the time 180 out.
     
  12. galaxie65
    Joined: Nov 28, 2009
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    Thank you everyone for your help

    I worked on the car all day yesterday trying a few different things and i tried the
    1-3-7-2-6-5-4-8 firing order and the car fired right up I am not sure why because i ran the casting numbers and the motor is a 71 torino 302 motor

    so i thank you again and wish the best of luck to anyone else working on fords mystery motors
     
  13. sdluck
    Joined: Sep 19, 2006
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    Cam may have been changed
     
  14. RedRodder
    Joined: Oct 1, 2009
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    more than likely, the windsor order was supposedly done to ballance ot stress on the crank, I've converted a few motors and can't tell the difference
     

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