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Customs First pics of the golden Sahara in decades

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  1. sliceddeuce
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    Anyone else like to see the paint stripped off so we can admire all that lead??
     
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  2. Mark, thanks for all the detailed pics. Glad you got to get right up to it and check it out. I look forward to talking to you about it in a few weeks. Maybe we might get lucky and the new owner will leave it in Indy for a few weeks and bring it to the CCR? Please oh please oh please!!!!
     
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  5. The sale from my vantage point on saturday.
     
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  7. Stogy
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  8. I spoke with Larry right after the auction. He seems pretty excited about the GS. If anyone has the resources to properly preserve or restore the car, I'd say he's on the short list. It seems like it's going to a good home.
     
  9. VANDENPLAS
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    Thanks mark, .... can I call you mark? I’m Daniel, nice to speak of you!

    Anyways thanks for the “ in person details” the bubble top being blurry , the fins being wavy , don’t surprise me, the quality like today or even back in the 80’s just could not be done back in the 50’s / 60’s

    But now knowing the GOlDEN SAHARA is essentially falling apart, no “ it’s only original once” matters . Shit is shit, don’t care if it’s one off shit, legendary shit, quality shit, show circuit shit, jim street shit, shit is shit is shit!

    Jim street had/has his reasons for not doing a thing with the GS while he owned it, he built it twice !and 75 large in 55 could buy you a lot more then 1 custom car, even tho it sold for 350 g’s I think it’s a wash as far as an investment.

    Anyways if it’s deteriorated as bad as Mark/Moriarty/moderator m says . (And he has first hand knowledge of its condition) then it should be restored to its former glory, love it or hate it, it’s a piece of history

    Even voodo Larry only did a tribute of it,can’t copy it to a t
    The kookie car is a pile of shit with a Watson’s paint job right now
    The golden Sahara is still the goldenSahara !
    I don’t like it, but I love what it represent in automotive history
     
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  10. ebfabman
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    Don't you mean Golden Sahara?
     
  11. VANDENPLAS
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    Fucking auto correct !
     
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  13. Don’t blame the autocorrect, blame the jackass who created it.


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  14. Stogy
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    Look what he started...
     
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  15. I started nothing.


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  16. Stogy
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    Jim Street started Street Flamethrowers...just imagine fried fishy paint...:p...honestly I don't know the history of those things but someone designed them...and I have only fortunately seen them live once...
     
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  17. I assume you had a pack of hot dogs at the time?


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  18. ebfabman
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    Fish and chips......:)
     
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  19. sliceddeuce
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    That explains it......I watched the video of the T.V appearance and my first thought was "Flamer"
     
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  20. Stogy
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    I don't think it flamed in the movie clip with Jerry Lewis...but I believe your eluding that this is somewhat a Custom specific...dodad. The only one I've seen live... (yeah I don't get out much :p) was on a Custom. Theres probably a thread on those things here...

    I guess it really originally may have had a relation to rockets and the jet age and those flying custom looking vehicles with no wheels that grounded Customs almost mimic being so close to the ground giving the illusion of floating.
     
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    It ain't as bad as he says it is. It was beautiful. That's MY first hand knowledge.

    The survival is more impressive than the restoration. The car was perfect. It was real.
     
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    Also, I don't know where this whole "Its falling apart" thing came from either.... there wasn't one piece of it on the ground next to it.
     
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    I never said the car was falling apart. The thread they sewed the upholstery with was disintegrating along with the frieze material. if you looked close thru the clear covers you could see the seams coming apart. I guess everyone has a different Idea of what beautiful is.( and don't get me wrong it is cooler than shit.) And it is no problem, different strokes for different folks. I just can't wrap my head around embracing cracked discolored paint, pitted discolored plating and decaying upholstery. but that is just me.....
     
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  24. Agree completely Mark. This concept of leaving things looking like shit because they are "original" makes no sense to me either. This was a show car that as meant to wow and dazzle not look sorry and dilapidated.
     
  25. S.F.
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    Ok here's the deal. For me its (mostly) not about embracing cracked paint, or rust. Its looking through it to see what it REALLY is. To take what its current state is and imagine what it actually really looked like. I just don't want someone's stink on it... someones " well I'm going to slightly tweak this spot because I feel this is the way it really should have looked" .... then pretty soon its "a fancy better version of what it was!" with crisper fin lines or perfectly laid out pleats in the upholstery; lets take away all hand formed imperfection. It happened with Burt Monro's Indian...it lost its soul. Its just some of his Indian, with some other guys opinion of what it should look like.
     
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  26. Stogy
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    I think the Sahara has already lost its soul as it is a shadow of it's former self.

    Perfection brings up an interesting point...that would be a modern master of preservation/restoration would no doubt be in awe of how well things were done on some of these gems from the past.

    I am sure for example Jim was very particular of the level of perfection of each and every detail on this Custom.

    There are several here in the business that would give it the respect required and I'm confident Larry would have it no other way either.
     
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  27. S.F.
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    See this car in person and that thought will change real quick

     
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  28. S.F.
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    Its kinda like when they said they removed the clear tires when they moved it out of the garage because "they were falling apart" ... were they REALLY falling apart? even if they were I'd have liked to at least seen what was left...but nope, someone had to mess with it. (been thinking about those damn clear tires for 20 years)
     
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