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Early Ford Delux wheel on F1 column?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by suede55bowtie, Aug 4, 2008.

  1. I used the search function but couldnt find a definitive answer.

    I kept reading that it fit, it didnt fit, and it fit with an adapter.

    Whats the low down? I plan on stickin a '47ish Ford Deluxe steering wheel on top this '55ish F1 column when I buy it for my roadster.

    Thanks guys
     
  2. VAPHEAD
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    If the 55 is a tapered and keyed shaft,then it will bolt on.
    But I don't know if it is.
    Not much help am I ?
     
  3. blackout
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    F-1 is splined. 55 is F-100. 47 is tapered. I know there is an adapter to use a T steering wheel which gets you to a taper, but I do not know if this will mate up to a 47 wheel. Short of an adapter, it's cut off and weld to get the sector shaft to match the wheel.
     
  4. klazurfer
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    I was just recently asked the very same Q , And after some brainwork ( With input from friends ) : F1 ( `48 -`52 ) has a tapered and keyed shaft , F100 ( `53 - (?) has a splined shaft , So a pre `49 Ford Steeringwheel won`t fit .
    Klaz
     
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  5. olscrounger
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    Vintique and Le Carra make replicas that are splined--I have one on my 40 coupe --looks nears stock except it's 16"
     
  6. klazurfer
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    My bad : blackout is right : Both F1 & F100 ( `48 - ) has splined shafts ( Same spline as Ford passenger car steering-wheels `49 & up .
    Ford Passenger car shafts ( pre `49 ) are tapered and keyed .
    Klaz
     
  7. tommy
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    I grafted an early Ford shaft to this F100 box including the locking wheel feature. I used a 39 tube and drop. It looks like the old Ford stuff but steers much better.
     
  8. blackout
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    Slick work, Tommy. I did one similar with the locking column in the past. Recently did a 'vair box (on top of the rail, very low chassis) with an F-1 shaft, 37 pick-up column cover with a white Moon wheel, 60's style.
     
  9. T Weed
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    I put a 47 Ford truck wheel (keyway type) on a 50 Ford truck column (splined type) by just cutting a keyway in the newer shaft. We found that the taper on both shafts was the same. If I remember correctly we just shaved the splines off in the lathe, put the old wheel with key on and I was good to go,,,its been in my t roadster for years now...
     
  10. Roger that, Ive got a spare model A steering shaft. Could I graft the keyed section onto my F1 shaft so I could run that wheel? Or is the model A steering shaft not even keyed?
     
  11. alchemy
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    You will probably find the truck column is too long for your roadster, so while you are shortening it, chuck it in a lathe and put the proper taper and new threads on the shortened end. Kill two birds with one pebble.
     
  12. srosa707
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    What smaller diameter wheel will fit on the tapered-keyway shaft?
     
  13. blackout
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    Never mind this post.
     
    Last edited: Aug 5, 2008
  14. Excuse me for asking so many questions, I just really wanna get the steering stuff squared away on my car so I can drive it hahaha...So any ford wheel post '49 will fit on an F1 column???
     
  15. srosa707
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    I got an F-100 wheel ill sell ya!
     
  16. tommy
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    The spline will most likely fit the shaft. This is an optional 57 Merc wheel on an F100 shaft. I did have to cut off the turn signal housing to fit right.

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    Other wheels may fit also. This is a 53 Hudson wheel on the same shaft.
     
  17. Bruce Lancaster
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    On wheels and pitman arms...Detroit uses and has used WAY fewer splines than you'd guess. You will find a big range of interchange, even including some furrin cars, and same splines in use over MANY decades. I'm guessing everyone in the industry buys their spline hobs from the same supplier and has done so since the invention of dirt.
     
  18. Wow thanks alot everyone! SROSA the column I found has a clean F1 wheel on it, I just hate that wheel though! haha

    Thanks again everyone
     

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