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History Drag cars in motion.......picture thread.

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by Royalshifter, Dec 12, 2007.

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    At left, Chris Karamesines, racing J.L. Payne in Vance Hunt's Texas-based dragster, at San Gabriel, 1962. The race was for the No. 1 spot on the Drag News top 10 fuel dragsters. Notice the starter: it is Don Garlits. I saw the three race match...second race the Greek wheelstood so high that Garlits said he would have walked under his car standing straight up and changed the oil.
     
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    Loudbang if your referring to the downward angle that is called engine dump and that is the way they were built and some had more than others


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    No, in that photo it looks like the engine and or blower injector and scoop is canted to the left in the photo it is not vertical while the dragster in the other lane is normal straight up and down.

    Like so

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    I noticed the same thing when I saw this picture yesterday. Thought maybe I was "seeing things"..!

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    Check out the other injected car at the far right. Practicing its wheelie? (Probably on a tow hitch{?}.)

    No driver now that I look for the third time.
     
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  9. The "canted engine" is just lens distortion.
     
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  10. I think you're probably right, but it seems strange that there isn't any apparent distortion to the spectators or utility poles in the same general area of the photo near the LH border. And you might have also expected to see some similar distortion near the RH border of the image.

    Maybe the engine is leaning over a bit and getting ready to spit out its crankshaft. :oops:
     
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  13. I was there. Trust me, the Greeks engine was straight up.
     
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    "Engine dump", that's funny..!

    Doesn't take much thought into realizing that the angle of the engine depends solely on the height...of the engine.
    The rear end, driveshaft, and engine mounting height have the sole say in how much angle there is/will be.
    If the engine is mounted high enough that the drive shaft is parallel to the ground, the engine will be pretty high, with the crankshaft, parallel to the ground.
    If the designer wants the engine lower, the engine will have a measurable downward drop in the front. It's all just a straight line from the pinion gear to the front of the crankshaft.

    Not many...IF any Fuel Dragsters had "U-joints".

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    Tom Prufer referred to a steep engine angle as the "Tampa Dump", as I recall.
     
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    Was Big Daddy from Tampa?
     
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  17. Yes. His shop was on Nebraska Ave. :D

    BTW, I'd heard it called "Tampa Dump" as well. Apparently, they'd connect the engine, clutch, and rear axle with wheels & tires, then lower the oilpan/ crank hub onto a wood 2x4 on the floor, then attach that assembly to the frame.

    I bet @Pete Eastwood could teach us the facts on the subject- he restored Ed Pink's "Old Master" dragster, that had a pretty noticeable dump. Pics are in TRJ.

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    Big Daddy had an earlier shop I believe in Sefner, Florida which is very close to Tampa.
    They used to test their cars in those days at Twin Cities Drag Strip in Oldsmar, Florida out near Race Track road.

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    Nothing odd or funny about referring to “dump”, and it has another counterpart when it comes to dragster or funny car racing, how far “out” is the engine? Not everyone followed the same formula for chassis building and there were different ideas tried all the time.
     
  20. Super Cool...Never seen before by me...thanks for sharing, made my day!
     
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    Norwood, Mass 1/8 mile 1968 New England Dragway South
     
  24. Jim Nicholl Der Wienerschnitzel...photo by Chan Bush.
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    First photo is Dennis “Mr Six” Priddle at Ellington airstrip in the car that he used to make the first six second run outside of North America.
    The second is the “Texas Weasel” of Prentiss Cunningham that was one of Raymond Beadle’s early rides.


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  29. New England Dragway South 1/8 mile 1968 every Friday night 1968 5F33FCB1-A675-4362-A962-9A0633BC5EA2.jpeg
     
  30. Al Segrini winning the Winternationals...my shot.
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