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Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by Royalshifter, Dec 12, 2007.

  1. tommyd
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    48244213_1240827386069089_6321575209782476800_n.jpg Ramchargers and Tasca?
     
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    Jocko poses with his yet-unpainted streamliner shell. The car turned an unheard of 8.35 with Jazzy Nelson driving, at Riverside, possibly because the backwards-installed clutch disc allowed slippage.
     
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    HoytGrimesFairburn1955.jpg
    Atlanta's Hoyt Grimes, at Fairburn, GA, 1955. Hoyt would go on to field a series of competitive dragsters...got to start somewhere.

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    Jocko standing next to the unpainted shell of his streamlined rear engine dragster. The car ran 8.35 at Riverside with Jazzy Nelson driving, possibly because the backwards-installed clutch disc allowed slippage.

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    Joe Jacano, from Pennsylvania, in his Lyndwood Welding chassis, blown Buick

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    Early altered coupe, at Caddo Mills, TX...looks like they were able to meet their speed goals.

    colton start bud todd at bottom left.jpg
    From the pits towards the starting line, Colton. Bud Todd's street roadster bottom left. This was a fun place to race, though the shutoff was pretty short and the return road was pretty cratered.

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    Fred Dannenfelzer at Santa Maria, photo probably by Karen White. Fred would add a second blown Chrysler to this car, and later distinguished himself with many record-setting Bonneville runs.

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    Hawkins, Webster, and McCleod "15oz coupe" in a rare Lions appearance. Les and Lyle usually ran San Gabriel and later Irwindale as they lived nearby. The coupe lives on (I used to crew for them, and Les build the first version of Panic for myself and Don Wilson, who later joined the 15oz crew, and whose name remains on the car today.

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    Featherstone, Adams, and Boarman, perhaps with Jim Seaton's Potvin-equipped Olds.
     
  5. rlsteel
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    Quentin Davis Dixon mo . 427 4 speed ford he bought new.car was later restored and went to Reggie Jackson.watched the car run many time this looks like Sullivan mo thunder valley race way.


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  7. jnaki
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    Hello,

    It was 59 years ago today, that one of the biggest drag races on the West Coast happened at Riverside Raceway. Despite the fact that Christmas was just around the corner, the drag racing world had the excitement, as the Drag News Paper had odd ball advertisements displayed for weeks. For us, that was more important for two drag racing, fanatic teenagers. We put off shopping and had to go see the best in the West vs. those other racers. We had never seen these “outsiders” from other parts of the USA, only in newspaper photos and stories. So, seeing them in person was going to be one great day of history and drag racing.
    upload_2018-12-20_4-30-49.png They did say it was the World’s Largest….

    All of the hoopla was a giant build up to the competition of EAST VS WEST drag racers at that Dragstrip, out in the edge of Riverside. It took us almost 2+ hours driving Eastward along a raging river and winding roads to get to the pits before the opening time. (We did not use freeways back then) The top names from the East, Midwest, Pacific Northwest and of course So Cal were all going to be present for this epic battle.


    We had been reading about the drag race event for weeks and were getting prepped for the all-day adventure about two hours away. We wanted to get there as the gate was first opened. So, a darkened departure time was in the works. Some of the films I took show the pit area early in the morning.

    Riverside Raceway Pits top race cars in the nation.

    One pit pass allowed anyone to cross the track in the safety area to get to the other side for a different view. Being up on a cliff side and watching the race cars zoom by was very different from being in the stands. This was 1959 and the safety protocols were not as harsh as they are today. So, I was also able to get to the starting line just a few feet away from the race cars to take some movies.


    Jnaki

    Being at a far away drag strip all day makes for an exciting trip. This teenager was in heaven with all of the big name racers from everywhere, including the top guys from So Cal. Since it was such a long day, when it was over, I fell asleep just outside of the gates and did not wake up until the driveway at our Westside, Long Beach home, 2+ hours away in the dark. This day was a memorable excursion, to say the least!

    The last elimination race has provided some feedback as to the validity of the start and results for the top 2 racers of the day.

    Art Chrisman staged to warm up about two feet behind the line. Don Garlits staged on the line. When Art Chrisman was creeping up to the actual startline, Garlits took off in a blaze of smoke, obviously winning the race, despite the valiant effort by Chrisman. My films shows Chrisman’s “Hustler” still behind the line when Garlits took off.

    I did not know the protocol of staging on this race, but someone messed up to make the start an even race. People standing around, immediately started talking and discussing what they just witnessed at the start line. They all said that the race was not fair and that Chrisman should be declared the winner. You be the judge:


    Garlits vs Chrisman controversy at the start.
     
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  10. Hi there. This is an awesome picture. This is my Grandfather Garland Alston who also raced the Shag Nasty car and El Toro (67 Ford Fairlane). By chance do you have any more pictures or maybe videos of my granddad in your archives please? Aquasco, MIR or Capital Raceway?


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    [​IMG] from instagram, not my pic.


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  13. the shadow
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    not vineland, it's york US-30, dick belfattie's "shadow #3" vs swamp rat III best out of three match race 1963.
     
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    bobby vodnick driving dick belfatties "shadow #4" dragster at Island dragway nj 1964
     
  15. 296ardun
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    Ewald and Smith.jpg
    Ewald & Smith, Don Ewald driving, now the manager of one of the best dragster sites on the planet..well, the best.

    GaryCagle4-X2.jpg
    Gary Cagle lights them up, from the Sherm Porter Collection. Later he went over in this car, got hurt, but kept on racing.

    green valley langley.jpg
    Bobby Langley at Green Valley, TX...I think it is a housing development now.

    gilmore george chrysler.jpg
    George Gilmore ran a Chrysler in this Willys gasser...Caddo Mills was one of the earliest Texas drag strips, the landing field is still there, but no more drag racing.

    freudiger phil.jpg
    Phil Freudinger leaves the starting line in his roadster, normally ran the lakes but they ran it at a SCTA meet at Colton. The car ran a flathead with a front-mounted blower, ran over 130. Photo from the Claude Hampson collection--- I give the collectors credit as they are the ones who preserve these old photos.

    grudem track dark.jpg
    Sometimes track roadsters did a side trip to run straight, this one at Pomona. Photo by Norm Grudem.

    prudhomme6.jpg
    Prudhomme takes a ride in the former Ivo single Buick car after installing Dave Zeuschel's Chrysler.

    seaton jim custom.jpg
    Even customs ran, this is Jim Seaton's Barris-build Chevy at Santa Maria, photo perhaps by Karen White. Jim also ran a the ex-Tony Nancy roadster with a blown Olds.

    santa ana cj riley.jpg
    This seems pretty uneven, with Cal Rice in the J.E. Riley fuel dragster taking on a roadster, Santa Ana.

    olliemorris harold dawson.jpg
    Ollie Morris and Harold Dawson ran this roadster, from the R&C collection. Harold would later run the "Tortoise" competition coupe and Ollie the "Smok'n White Owl" rear-engine dragster.
     
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    Great photo, Beardon, Tapia, and Hoffman take on the Green Monster at Lions, and won. The Beardon car was an early version of the Chassis Research TE-440, with an unusual frame arrangement forward of the firewall. Bobby Tapia would go on to drive several top fuel cars, including for Larry Stellings. He was a computer engineer, which was a rare profession for those days.
     
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    I was also on the starting line, Junji, and you got it exactly right. Garlits pulled up to the painted line, Chrisman pulled up short of it. Before throwing the flag, the starter pointed it at each driver to signify that they were ready. I was surprised that Chrisman nodded, as did Garlits. He then threw the flag and Garlits left with the lead, and won the race. He beat Chris Karamesines for the final race, as the Greek had beaten Ted Cyr in the other semi-final.
     
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    Like this?
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  20. ttwomotor
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    Couple more - sorry if reposts but 1920 pages a lot to go through.
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    Hey TT,
    The frame rails were not parallel. They were odd in design and not on a lot of race cars back then. The Tapia Brothers ran at Lions a lot during those times. The design almost made the driver lay back down to see/steer. (perhaps it is also a "legs under" scenario.)

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    Jnaki
    The design always had comments like: Head protection? What protection? I guess one could duck down to let the bars do the protection. But, that FED was very quick in their class at Lions. It took all kinds of "bravado" in the early days of drag racing.

    Tapia Bros at Lions 1959-60
     
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    Sort of...notice how the tube cross in front of the engine.....so many TE-440s, so many different set-ups. These are great pictures, Cyr & Hopper (Ted Cyr at left) and Jimmy Nix (forgot he had a TE-440), may I repost these on the Chassis Research page with credit to you?
     
  24. misigis
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    A little trivia, does anyone know why they are named 440.
     
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  25. jnaki
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    Hello,
    Could it be that they are only going for a quarter of a mile? 440 yards = 1/4 mile...

    Jnaki
     
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    They may have thought 1320 was too long.
     
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  27. misigis
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    Bingo - That was quick
     
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  28. misigis
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    Yes sir, 440 yards
     
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    Never doubt that Jnaki will always have the answer !!!:D
    He is like a library.
     
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    You’re so right, I always learn something & enjoy his posts
     
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