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History Drag cars in motion.......picture thread.

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by Royalshifter, Dec 12, 2007.

  1. Sure do remember that Austin roadster Dave. It belonged to Ed Taylor. He ran it out of his ET Auto Parts shop in Pomona. Ed loved him a blown Olds. His next roadster was an A/comp driven by Merek Chertkow. That nitro Olds gave the T/F guys all they could handle.
     
  2. rooman
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    A first name of Rich was a must if you were involved with this car. The original version was owned by Rich Abate (as seen here--most likely at the 1967 Manufacturer's Championship event at OCIR due to the fact that Dee Keaton is in the other lane) and it was driven driven by Rich Hammons who later assumed ownership according to some sources. Goodies Speed Shop was owned by Richard Guess and he backed a number of early floppers including the Hairy Canary Valiant originally run by Hammons and Don Williamson who built the engine for Samson.

    Roo
     
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  3. jnaki
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    Hello,

    At the time of the install of the C&O Stick Hydro in our 58 Impala,(60-61) Gene Ciambella was in the early stages of building a drag car. Jump up to 1964 at an All Gasser Meet at Lions, he showed up with a red Willys pickup (Keith Martin?) that ripped up the dragstrip.

    Jnaki
    I was already proud to have one of the first C&O stick hydro installs in my slightly modified, 58 Impala. But, now, the competition races were on with the other big name stick hydro companies installs on the top racers in So Cal.


    Here is that Willys pickup racing the Arioso Bros. coupe at Lions in the eliminations.



    JUST BY CHANCE:
    Does anyone have access to photos of the original, yellow/black, C&O hydro (OVAL) transmission sticker(s) from 1960-61?
     
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  4. loudbang
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    Midnight Madness

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    Sonny Lemma's & Henco caddy power

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    Underdog

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    Butch Lehman

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    Dick Harrel in a Yenko car

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    Dyno Don

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    Ferd Napfel's Storming Bull

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  5. j3harleys
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    Ron Leslie Who passed on this week. Ron on the left 20170331_075608.jpg 20170331_074727.jpg RIP
     
  6. ttwomotor
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    from Illinois

    If you had a SBC to run the blower on your Hemi. You would do good too![/QUOTE]
    For at least one race not "The Odd Couple". 1-ocir_oddcpl1.jpg
     
  7. rooman
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    The Lehman name was familiar so I did a bit of digging and although the caption lists the driver as Butch he is more familiar to latter day racers as Harry of "American Way" fame. The car also had a familiar look to it and then I remembered the Coleman Brothers rear motor car that showed up when I was researching them (post # 55239) and sure enough Scotty Fenn had an involvement in both cars. Read all about Harry (including the history of this car) here: http://www.americanwaytopfueler.com/evolution.html

    Roo
     
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  8. rooman
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    For at least one race not "The Odd Couple". View attachment 3494861 [/QUOTE]

    And driver Walt Stevens still has the same paint job on his current helmet as seen in this Bob Brown shot from the 2009 CHRR
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    Roo
     
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  9. rooman
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    Although the caption tends to concentrate on the Bliss brothers the real story here is driver Walt Weney who went on to start S & W Race Cars. Here is a Brian Beattie shot of it and some more background courtesy of WDIFL.
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    Here's the C/FD of Bliss-Weney-Bliss in the pits at Island Dragway in 1962. The car was owned by Ed Bliss and driven by Walt Weney from 1962-63. They won C/Dragster Class @Indy in 1962 . Also was voted outstanding competition car on the East coast by Eastern Drag News. This team was also vote top 10 in the country by Hot Rod Magazine in 1963 .this car also was the record holder for C Dragster from about 1962 -67. Won a number of competition Eliminator titles all around the East coast.

    Roo
     
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    John Smyser's car, with Nando Haas driving

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    Dick Belfatti's "Shadow," from Willow Grove, PA.

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    Bob Routhenwaite's 34 coupe at Saugus, can't remember whose deuce roadster that is in front...the GCRC means "Glendale Coupe & Roadster Club," which Routhenwaite also belonged to...(he built his coupe for the lakes, but drag raced it until he and Tom McLaughlin built a very early dragster).

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    Tom Walsh drove this Fiat, once a coupe until the hacksaw...this car, from Hayward, blew up at one of the first Bakersfield meets, and Tom suffered burns as a result.

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    Sush Matsubara
     
  11. loudbang
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    Gene Mori

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    George Resse Kenilworth Sunoco Yellow Cab

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    Hans Schmidt

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    Joe Jacono

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    John Ridgway's Problems Problems. wonder if he is related to Ralph Ridgeway?

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  12. tommyd
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    from South Indy

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  13. RDE
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    Jungle Jim was a friend of mine. He ran out of Goodies Speed Shop in San Jose for a while......I built the motor mounts for him when he had a 57 chev with a 348 tri power motor.. I had left home for the Army before Jungle Pam came along. Jim was a pioneer funny car driver and promoter.
     
  14. CGkidd
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    My buddy has the injection and some other parts of this motor. He is looking at recreating the dragster.

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  15. rudestude
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    Life Magazine
    1963
    Hirata-Hobbs Dragster - driven by Bobby Vodnik - sweeps the 1963 NHRA Nationals[​IMG]

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  16. rooman
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    And here is a shot of the restored Coleman Bros back motor car. Interesting that despite the fact that the Colemans were from Maryland the restoration was performed by the HAMB's own Marty Strode (in the straw hat) who is in the Portland, Oregon area. Read more about it (and a bunch of other stuff) right here on the HAMB ; http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/neat-early-rear-engine-dragster.70840/

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    And a couple of it as it was back in the day

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    Evidently a later version with a somewhat stretched wheelbase
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    Roo
     
  17. Marty Strode
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    Roo, Thanks for the acknowledgement. Here is the Coleman, shortly after Tom Willford bought it in 1988. My race partner Bobby Mead and I cut the frame extension off and re-mounted the front axle, and had the chassis sandblasted and primed. It sat in that state until 2002, when Tom and I collected the parts to complete the restoration, and take it to CHHR that year. BTW, the Don Long car sitting alongside is the car I raced in '88. Quite the contrast in Dragsters. 2012-09-27 084849.jpg
     
  18. Stan Back
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    To me they have something in common . . . they're both beautiful!

    (I'd like another 100+" in wheelbase before I'd drive the short one.)
     
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  19. Marty Strode
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    Going from memory, it was 104" !
     
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  20. 296ardun
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    Early shots from Santa Ana, even the Nash ran in the competition classes.

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    San Luis Obispo, neat chop on both cars.

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    Bob Alsenez in Kenny Lindley's Misfire at the '56 NHRA Nationals. Kenny was a long-time lakes racer who ran a lakester in the late '40s, later retired to Arkansas and ran a small engine repair shop.

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    I think I have posted this before, but too cool not to see again...Jerry Card's Fiat-bodied competition coupe at Bakersfield...The rear skirts didn't last as they trapped smoke in the cockpit, but they looked cool....Paul Sutherland ran a similar coupe, but used a later Fiat body. Jerry ran an automobile repair shop in Cerritos, right north of Oakland.

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    I posted a picture of this roadster (once a coupe) before, here it is suffering an engine explosion at Bakersfield, sending Tom Walsh to the hospital with burns...no real fire protection then, we learned the hard way.

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    Drifters of Redondo Beach, ran different flatheads on fuel, one blown...

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    Bean Bandits, rare shot of this car when it was not yellow...
     
  21. Dave, Sutherland's coupe was a Simca. A Fiat with a "big butt". :D
     
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  22. loudbang
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    Note flying superchargher parts

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    Reese Bros & Coleman Bros

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    Shake Rattle and Run


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    Silver Dollar

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  23. Leadsled51
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    I am no means an expert at all, I love to hear all you guys stories about the great days of drag racing, but I did do a google search on "Sundance Kid" dragster and found this on facebook....it was on a page that had something to do with British Hall of Fame Drag racing.......

    There will also be a Sundance Kid Reunion with three key people in Norwegian drag racing getting together at the Savill Court – the first meeting between them for well over 25 years. Those three pioneers are Fred Larsen, Jan Odd Jakobsen and Ludvig Bjǿrnstad.

    Fred Larsen was the driver and co-owner of Norway’s first dragster – Sundance Kid. During several trips to the UK in the mid-1970s he paved the way for other Norwegians to get involved. With a body taken from the Commuter dragster mould it was one of the most beautiful slingshots around. Fred now operates Nordic Export Inc and is travelling from his home in Florida with his wife Astrid to reunite with his team.

    Jan Odd Jakobsen was Fred Larsen’s partner in the Sundance Kid. He is a founder of ACSN (American Cars of Southern Norway) in 1973 and as a member of that board in 1975 they formed the American Car Club of Norway (Amcar) merging with American Car Club Trondheim. Today this is the main car organization for owners of American Cars in Norway with more than 100 associated clubs and 18,000 members. He was a member of the Drag Race Committee behind the first drag race in Norway held at Fyresdal in 1978.

    Ludvig Bjǿrnstad and Fred Larsen were the first two Norwegians to drag race in Sweden. Ludvig was a member of Fred Larsen’s Sundance Kid team at Snetterton in 1975 and purchased Shutdown after the race (He called it Headache in Norway). He later ran a Top Fuel dragster in Norway, Sweden and the UK and became known as the Big Daddy of Norwegian drag racing.

    His partner Hilde Skogseth has been active in many different aspects of drag racing. Her first visit to Santa Pod was in 1974 just to see the track. At a later meet they arranged for some runs with Inge Bugge’s Camaro returning in 1976 as crew for Inge Bugge’s Pro Comp dragster. She was also at Mantorp Park when Ludvig first ran Headache. Her good friend British Drag Racing Hall of Fame member Rune Fjeld was helping out as a mechanic on the Headache team.

    Hilde was a judge at Mantorp Park and Gardermoen during the 1980's. And she was at Santa Pod when Ludvig put down the first 5 second run by a Norwegian driving his Top Fuel dragster in 1987
     
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  24. rooman
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    I think I have posted this before, but too cool not to see again...Jerry Card's Fiat-bodied competition coupe at Bakersfield...The rear skirts didn't last as they trapped smoke in the cockpit, but they looked cool....Paul Sutherland ran a similar coupe, but used a later Fiat body. Jerry ran an automobile repair shop in Cerritos, right north of Oakland.

    "Dave, Sutherland's coupe was a Simca. A Fiat with a "big butt". :D

    We went through all of this about 700 pages back in the thread. Actually the Simca and Fiat bodies are the same with the later (post WW II) version of both having the "big butt" with the spare wheel stored behind a hatch rather than mounted on the rear deck.
    I have seen this photo posted as Sutherland's car but it appears to be an early iteration of Card's Fiat--short tail, "fender" skirts etc. One of the keys is the hood which in all three versions pictured here wraps quite a way down the side of the car. The car may not have been hemi powered at this point as the hood sides are cut to clear the valve covers in the shot that Dave posted.
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    The pick up in the background seems to confirm that this is probably the final iteration of Jerry's car--skirts are gone and the wheelbase has been stretched (with a new nose) but the louvered roof and short tail match Dave's shot

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    And here is the Sutherland car --later bustle tail body, open roof, less rake to the windshield, drag link through the hood side panel above the headers rather than under and a shallower hood with the split about level with the bottom of the door handle. One thing that is interesting is that the lettering style for the AMC class designation is pretty much the same on both cars (on the roof in Dave's shot)
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    Roo
     
  25. rooman
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    Thanks for the additional background mate!
    BTW, you need to update the date for the Meltdown Drags in your signature. :) See you there.

    Roo
     
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  26. chase knight
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    The Coleman Brothers Chassis Research rear engine car that they campaigned in 1961-62 was driven by Earl Howard. They broke the 180 MPH Chevy small-block barrier at York US30 in 1961. Earl then went on to drag race blown alcohol hydroplanes, and later multi-Allison engine pulling tractors. Regards, Chase
     
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  27. Shake, Rattle and "Run Over Your Crankshaft"? :eek:
     
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  28. I haven't been following this thread for a while, so I might be repeating others posts.I will post captions if i have them!
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  29. Bob Creitz and Gene Coleman
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